look I don't like anyone to lose their living it happened to me once and its not nice but we have to have a change of all management or we are going down to division one,just saying.
Have to disagree with you on this. City don’t look like a team anymore; no game plan and confidence. Time for a change.
No argument with your last point Hilts but what has he actually done to rebuild having been with us for 14 months? In the main the squad is still Warnock's. Granted he has offloaded, is it 8 or 9 players, but who has he brought in as permanent senior players as opposed to loaners? I'm wracking my brains to think of anyone other than a goalkeeper on a free (who hasn't played yet) and a centre forward of limited ability on whom it looks like we blew our whole transfer budget. Yes, loaners like Wilson, Tutu and, to an extent, Ojo have improved the squad but they are relatively short term and don't belong to us. I appreciate the funds available to Harris are limited, probably more so than we imagined but from where I'm sat it looks more like a dismantling job. Apart from the 2 mentioned above where has the rebuild started? Other than Bagan, who I think will be a very good player, only Harris has made it on to the pitch from our home grown youngsters and, in reality, he is not all that. We have 2 out on loan in Brown and Sang but both spend more time on the bench than the pitch at clubs below the standard we set. I really can't see where Harris can take us forward. I have said before that I think he has lost the dressing room and our continued lacklustre showings evidence that fact to me. I'm afraid he has to go for the good of the club. Again as I have said before for his replacement we need to be shopping at Tesco or Asda, figuratively speaking, not bargain basement Home Bargains or Poundland. I get it that M&S and John Lewis are beyond our finances.
Good analysis and all valid points. I know I shouldn't be, but I'm still in shock at that rubbish masquerading as a football team last night. I'm not commenting any more on the subject of Harris and the way we should go for the moment - I've said it all before.
Well according to him he’s planning for next month https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/we-soft-simple-that-raging-19536986
We've been here before, trying to understand what our team is trying to achieve. If we demonstrated an approach or strategy on the pitch but struggled to execute, that would be one thing. If the players are not good enough, so be it. But to be aimless means the problem is at the top, and that us what needs to change. We've seen teams up and down the leagues that "overacheive" with the players available to them. Indeed, we overacheived under colin until he got money to spend. We might not have liked the style, but it was overacheiving with the players we had. Everyone had a job and knew how to do it. A sofn of good management. That structure now seems lacking.
Harris is clueless, once again booting the ball in the air does not work, his tactics are dire, the football on offer is dire. He has to go for the sake of the club, and get someone in who is in line with the modern game, otherwise we will never progress, its not as if we dont have decent players to work with.
We are paying for the summer of 2019 window. Glatzel Flint Whyte Pack Vaulks. We are stuck with them. No money to spend and somehow we need players out. Add to that lot Cunningham and Murphy. On limited resources so far hes brought in Moore Ojo Wilson. All relatively good. Phillips jurys out and Benkovic crap. Hes been unlucky with the Arsenal right back and hes lost Tomlin. Last night we had Glatzel and Harris up front. A league 2 side would struggle with that attack. To start the rebuild we lost Ward and Patterson who are miles better than those 2. Next few years the target is survival. The squad isnt good enough. Let him get on with the job. Youll have to get used to it as hes going nowhere anyway.
Come on Hilts pal, you're clutching at straws just hoping Harris is the right guy - there is no evidence at all. You cannot just blame the players/injuries/bad luck etc. I can accept (reluctantly) that we cannot compete in quality terms on the pitch with the likes of Norwich and Brentford, but FFS we should have enough about us to perform against most others. There is no excuse for the performances against the likes of Coventry, Wycombe, QPR who should be nowhere near capable of beating us, but they all have. Do you honestly think the Jacks have got better players than us? Apart from Ayew who is Prem class, they are no better, but what they do have is a manager who knows what he wants and how to achieve it. Some may think Harris has had a bum deal with injuries and bad luck etc, but he's not demonstrated the abiltiy to manage a situation on or off the pitch - during games in particular when he looks completely out of his depth. Blame the players, Tan and his henchmen if you like, but Harris has had a go and is failing. Time for change and that needn't be just be the manager - we need some fresh blood from the top down.
I wouldn’t have thought he would know what holistic means http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55485667
If he means that we would be taking a holistic approach to sorting the club out by looking at the whole set up and not just the manager, then I think he has a point. A lot of us on here have commented on how we need to improve everything, from the owner and chairman down. And that means investment and a coaching set up capable of getting us out of the mess we are in now. Until that happens we will keep on struggling.
Don't hold your breath Irish. To start with, to change the owner means some kind, benevolent person has to come up with £150m to buy out Tan then a further £50/100m to invest in the improvement of the club. Not a lot of those around.
I didn’t say change the owner Bluey but if we are to improve we need investment. If Tan cannot supply that then yeah we can only hope that there is someone out there capable of buying out the club and providing the funds to get the right coaching team and players. I won’t hold my breath however. On the manager situation there must be someone who is capable of getting better performances from our players. Colin is doing a good job at Middlesbrough and Michael O’Neill has turned Stoke around. Two teams who really struggled last year. If I’m not mistaken O’Neill was available when we took Harris on board. I wonder if we ever enquired about his availability. We can only hope for stability this season and hope we don’t get dragged into the relegation battle. However I live in hope that our fortunes improve on and off the pitch in 2021.
What worries me is that is there anybody in control at the club whose capable of identifying a prospective manager and assistants who can do a job? Yes, Warnock arrived bringing Blackwell and Jepson at the right time and probably outstayed their welcome to be fair, but at least it was the right move at the time after the clueless Trollope. Can we now find someone who can take the admitted limited ability within this squad to the next level? They are no world beaters by any means but not as bad as the dross they've been playing, and that is the obvious problem with the present regime. Despite all the excuses offered up and the "ageing" playing staff, this has got to be principally a management issue. This going to take courage otherwise we'll be looking to just stabilise and avoid a trip to the basement divisions. That may well be the first objective given the state we''ve got ourselves into, but we've got to look further than that or be devoid of any ambition.
