Off Topic Christmas, Boris and hypocrisy ...

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/d7d0488e-f141-40f8-a2ea-467111354ab3

Home Office attacks ‘activist lawyers’ over cancelled returns of asylum seekers
Department uses unusually trenchant language after it was forced to halt plans to transfer migrants to Spain

 

Appeal court gives 11th-hour reprieve to detainees due to be ...
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Feb 10, 2020 — Lawyer Toufique Hossain, who brought the case for Detention Action, said: “For ... The Home Office had argued that the flight was “specifically for ... Last-ditch bid to stop many boarding Home Office flight to Jamaica fails.
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That is a disgrace and I am sure it will be looked at, and the detention issue will be resolved, at least I hope so, for all our sakes.

 

Thanks but I’m a she.

 

well said i too was a labour supporter as were all my family and an avid Brexiteer despite living in Germany and Netherlands for years, I am preparing to move back home (Sunderland will always be) my home

 

Lifelong female Sunderland supporter of 57 years. Also a long term Labour supporter until T Blair lied about Iraq. Am now not a supporter of any specific party, although I do not think Labour have any leader worthy of my vote for many years. We are all entitled to our own opinions, but should not let our opinions cloud the fact that ALL parties are capable of lying. I do confess however to voting for brexit, which I realise is also unpopular on here.

 

The best post on this thread

 

Well said

 

its you that brought lawyers up, Everyone knows how they chase ex NI paras, how they chased troops in Iran and Iraq all for money, they were even struck off for Lying.

DISGRACED solicitor Phil Shiner's tank-chasing law firm has finally been shut down by a court. Shiner's company made millions of pounds bringing scores of unfounded cases against soldiers alleging mistreatment of locals in the Iraq War.
Disgraced solicitor Phil Shiner's tank-chasing law firm finally ...

'Ambulance chasing' law firm that hounded British troops over ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › NewsAug 2, 2016 — The decision by the Legal Aid Agency (LAA) to revoke its contract with PIL is a massive blow to the firm, which could now be forced to shut down. The law firm, based in Birmingham and London, has levelled more than 1,100 allegations of mistreatment, torture and murder by British troop of Iraqis.

Phil Shiner: Iraq human rights lawyer struck off over misconduct
www.theguardian.com › law › feb › iraq-human-rights-...Feb 2, 2017 — The firm closed down in August after being stripped of legal aid funding ... Phil Shiner made soldiers' lives a misery by pursuing false claims of ...

 

The Guildford Four..

As it happened I was doing an audit in Guildford.. and had a pie /pint at the very pub that was bombed a couple of weeks later.

At the time I would have been very happy if the Guildford 4 were hanged.

It turns out they were innocent.

In principle I do not see what is wrong with hanging, but in practice innocent people could be killed!

 

I've seen these 'cut&paste' debates and people respond blow by blow with reams of text ...

... but it's blatantly obvious no one ever reads them through or believes the other side.

Thats why I'm not going to participate.

 

Folk who think Labour will be back in power at the next election are living in a dreamworld IMO.
The are quite simply unelectable, and have been since Gordon Brown, took a huge chunk of all our pensions (in the 90s, if you don’t believe me simply check your pension statements), and even after doing that The Labour Party and it’s members still made him leader after Blair.
Currently they still have not accepted Brexit, and it’s clear they think the public have got it wrong.
Their opposition to the Govt is so weak and negative, I don’t bother listening any more despite being a traditional Labour Supporter.
Did anyone watch Captain Hindsight’s press conference after the Brexit Deal was confirmed? It was an embarrassing response, by a leader of Doom & Gloom merchants.
The shadow chancellor is scary (not only in the looks department), and like her predecessor thinks there’s a bottomless pot of money to throw at any lost cause she can think of.
Finally there is the way that the party still treats the Jewish community. Nothing has changed, and some of the Party’s national executive should be put to trial.
IMO the party is finished, and it won’t be too long before it splinters. My hope is one of the splinters is something that I can support, as I’m sick of spoiling my ballot paper every election.

Bart

 

Very good post.

As you seem quite reasonable would you mind me an honest question.

I'm only interested in your answer and won't ask any follow up questions, I'm not trying to trip you up.

As a Brexit voter, what were the three most important reasons for you .... thanks.

 

Good on you mate.

 

Don’t believe in the death sentence never have.

 

In light of today's headlines about the crisis in the nhs, wouldn't you think someone from the cabinet would be speaking out today?

 

Read all of your posts Roger and to be fair I would call it a day as there are actually lads on here that believe everyone who gets off is innocent, can’t really think of anything else to say mate.