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Steve Bruce

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Toonitus, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    I'm in to football not looking at tables and watching points
     
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  2. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    His luck will run out sooner or later... They drew with city without him
     
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  3. JokeInEre

    JokeInEre Well-Known Member

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    You are in the minority mate. If we played great and continued to lose you would get sick of it.
     
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  4. Toonitus

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    What we need are some good players... I don't get where this motion has come fron that we've improved?

    Lost willems brought in Wilson

    The others are all ****e
     
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  5. Toonitus

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    Of course they would... Its like living deja vu with nufc fans. For years they moaned that all they wanted was a team that tried and rafa provided exactly that, so they moaned it wasn't what they wanted anymore... They just make it up as they go along....
     
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  6. JokeInEre

    JokeInEre Well-Known Member

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    I think our defense is ok. We have Wilson up front who will get us goals. The real problems lye in the middle of the park. Zero Creativity.
     
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  7. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    We've got about 6 premier league players in the sqaud and all the others are absolute trash.. We need two quality cms yes and two full backs
     
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  8. JokeInEre

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    Whose the 6?

    Darlow, Dubravka, Schar, ASM, Fraser and Wilson?
     
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  9. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Chat ****ters
     
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  10. Toonitus

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    I actually think Clark is a very good cb. But I dont rate Fraser at all.
     
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  11. JokeInEre

    JokeInEre Well-Known Member

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    Clark is decent to be fair. We really need full backs as you say. A box to box midfield is a must, a loan in january as priority.
     
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  12. Toonitus

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    Basically a spend of 100 million is required
     
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  13. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    No it's not. It's just choosing the right players who will fit the system of the manager. We need a better RB, Jetro in on a free and two CMs
     
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  14. Toonitus

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    If you want trash to go with the trash then yes.. But that squad needs two full backs, two cms and a striker... For 100 million these days you get bottom end for 5 players
     
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  15. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Jetro free
    RB £10m
    CM 1 £20m
    CM 2 £20m

    Job done for this season.

    Next season build on it.
     
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  16. Rum & Black for 2

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    The real problems lie with the owner and the manager. Sort those two out and the middle of the park will be sorted.
     
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  17. Roland Deschain

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    1. It'll make no difference. Bruce is there, as he has (finally) rightly said, to keep the club up. It's what made Rafa leave, it's why we have Charnley, why Keith Bishop is a "senior figure". It's a diabolical mess, with only one way out.
    2. We will always, always be in "serious trouble" while Ashley remains. The bloke in the dugout is an absolute irrelevance. The scouting set-up is an absolute shambles, and the playing squad is - as Bruce is finding out - a relegation squad. We took a few players, all from relegated clubs. We signed some absolute donkeys from abroad, the one decent player has demonstrated his attitude.
    3. The problem we now have is that the "revelation" of being perennial under-achievers and relegation-dodgers, which all Toon fans already knew (but didn't want to know), is 'out there'. Every agent, every player can now see it laid bare. Come to NUFC, it's a relegation battle. Trophies, Europe, progress or ambition are outlawed here.
    4. There's simply not even a semblance of a plan. Again it comes back around to Mike Ashley being a ****ing abhorrent individual - he thinks you can get a couple of players, throw Bruce in and stay in the Prem. There's no ideal from the top to grow the brand, to expand revenues, to build for stability in the future by looking to youth or the facilities or the scouting.

    That's why we have Charnley, it's why we then have Bruce. It's why we even had Rafa, safe bet for protecting the investment. The mistake was Rafa was an anomaly, a blip that made it seem we might be striving for more, when in reality survival was the only goal. You could have Pochettino, Mourinho, Ancelotti, the result would be the same. Should Bruce go, we will turn to Neil Warnock, or whoever is most likely to keep the club in the PL.

    It could be solved overnight, but there's only ONE way out. Ashley could lower the asking price to something reasonable and just **** off. Rid the football world of his odious presence.

    He won't. So we remain in this constant purgatory.
     
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  18. Rum & Black for 2

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    We need a system first. Under Bruce we lack even that.
     
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  19. Toonitus

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    Not going to happen though... And we need another striker... I feel 100 million is a fair estimate for what's required to push for a top 10 /mid table
     
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  20. Rafman

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    Janmaat - Free
    Wilshere - Free
     
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