Describing someone as the black guy is not racist, so says John Barnes. https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...asaksehir-fourth-official-racism-b231325.html
Not racist for me either. I think in the future though we're going to have to stop using skin colour as a description unless it's absolutely necessary. Not saying I'm chomping at the bit for that but it'd make things simpler at least.
I suppose saying "the black bloke" to describe a black fella amongst all whites is the same as saying "the white bloke" amongst all blacks. Describing Sum Ting Wong as the little yella fella might be frowned upon though
Not racist but incredibly poor for a top level official to be so unaware of the teams he's overseeing that he has to resort to saying 'the black guy' instead of using his name or even number.
I don’t think they were offended by him saying ‘the black guy’, it’s none black people trying to make that racist. It isn’t. The offence came from ‘negru’ a clear breakdown in the language barrier and the Turks bench not appreciating the ‘negru’ is black in several languages as ‘negro’ is in Italian. Pure language barrier, absolutely not racist, and anyone trying to say calling a black personal black or as white person white needs to get a ****ing grip. I have a number of black friends. They all refer to themselves as black. Not anything else, black. Saying it’s racist is almost like saying it’s inferior, making it racist by the person saying it’s ****ing racist. Sick of this ****e now. We all know what racism is let’s stop trying to flex everything into it.
Feels like I have missed something. It can't be as simple as just a physical description. There must be something else to it that isn't being reported. Otherwise it is ****ing mad.
If you listen to Demba Bar he clearly says and takes offence at the 4th official using the words "the black guy".
When Pardew was at the Mags he called Pellegrini an "old ****" and it was plain to see. That is discrimination in no uncertain terms but nothing was done about it or even said. Didn't even touch the sides on the discrimination front. Had Pellegrini been black and he'd called him black instead of old, then he'd have been thrown out of the game. Because he used a descriptive word which is factually correct, no-one saw it as discriminatory - my elderly grandparents certainly did and compl;ained to the FA - got nothing back from them!! It seems to me that people (including the media) pick which discrimination they want to back more. They make things discriminatory when they are not meant in that way at any point. Negrito - a term used in south America as a term of endearment, because it "sounds" racist it must be racist. Someone on here a few years ago posted that we are all brought up to use a descriptive word before something. The term "black" is a descriptive word. We are having to retrain our minds to not use the most obvious descriptor as some people see it as discrimiatory. Unless you're black of course in which case they can use it all the time (Anthony Joshua - "the superior black race" for instance - why not just "the superior race")
He took offence at his colour being used to describe him. he stated that colour would not have been used to describe someone who was white.
But if it was a white bloke, they might have said "the blonde guy" or "the ginger guy". I think we need to see what the context the term was used, but context is something no longer considered these days.
PSG have to get the first one in i bet Neymar was wingeing, if it had been Harrogate we would not have heard owt about this, football will be finished if this keeps up, it's bad enough with covid, then Millwall, players falling down left right and centre now this what next ? Call the ref a baldy get and he walks off.
Ffs man, get a grip. I worked on the doors for 11 years and was called everything you can imagine plus a few you can't. I've also been inadvertently 'insulted' by old aunties, shop assistants, policemen, check-out girls, etc. I've never taken offence because it was generally benign or just daft. On the other hand I can really be offended by someone saying the slightest thing or making the smallest gesture .... .... in France some people are absolutely mortified if you use tu instead of vous for 'you'. Respect isnt in the nuances of words, it's in your treatment of the person in front of you. This is all getting silly now.
I wasn't saying what was said was right or wrong or making any moral judgement. I was just passing on the info of what he had found offensive.
