PISKIE has threatened to ban me for having a laugh

FYI it's "speech"

Any chance you could look at the post I had about IP addresses? As you rightly say the mods are just fans and I don't think they really need to be able to see stuff like your IP, especially after one mod has already used it to find out and publicise where a user was.

Thanks

 

I may not have gotten what I meant across (I was still very tired when I wrote that.)

I'm not saying that what you've done is wrong, all I'm saying is that the mods should be left to do what they have been trusted to do, and shouldn't be bombarded with constant demands to ban this and delete that.

We've all suggested a thread should be closed at some point, but thinking about it, it seems quite juvenile.
"Joe Bloggs hurt my feelings. Ban him!"

Can't people just ignore it? WUMs wouldn't continue posting if nobody reacts to it anyway.

 

HIAG's intentions were to ensure that he couldn't be ignored.
He was an attention seeking wum,
the existence of this thread should tell you that much.

One of our members summed up why he had become such a problem:

 

my Daughter.nephew& sister-in-law,all gooners knew it was coming from me if we won.And it did,they did'nt get stroppy,it's part of the joy of winning

 

I don't get the impression that that's what they're really bothered about LDL. It's not just a few gloating comments, they feel he's trying to cause arguments and disrupt their board.

 

Spot on.

 

I for one have no problem have no problem with banter.I like to think i get on with most of the Spurs lads on here,HIAG's problem is he tries to disrupt every thread

 

My dad failed at converting his daughter, too. He's a Spurs supporter but my sister is a gooner.
So is her boyfriend.

... So is my best friend.

Come to think of it, it was a good weekend for me, banter wise.

 

it's funny my fmily seem to be Spurs or Arsenal.my Brother-in law & my neice are Spurs supporters,even though my neice threw Gary Lineker on the floor

 

no he touched a bit he should'nt have on feel the guest on they think it's all over

 

no,it was a few years ago,1997 i think,he was one of the team captains

 

Not this Robin though Luke. It's not my style

 

Didn't you get the memo? If you want to get away with murder, you need to be an American with a story that changes as often as the phases of the moon...

 

Friends

I wondered if I should add to this thread since I have no wish to add to this difficult situation. However I do sincerely feel that HIAG has not been well treated and this occurred at the start of his participation with us when he came onto our board to offer his sympathies over our visit to Old Trafford. One or two of my fellows failed to grasp the point he was making which in no way was intended to inflame an already delicate collection of Arsenal fans. I think the unintentional error in forming a wrong impression of him set up the difficulties which were to come.

A period of good humored and constructive discussion followed with the occasional banter until once again exception was taken with respect to his contributions and again in the absence of good reason. Then one of our newer members whose screename assumed the spouse of a moderator raised a thread which called for his banishment from our board with if I may add, accompanying name-calling. That this style of writing from a lady member is questionable and did certainly raise comment from some members. It has to be said that HIAG received support from an overwhelming majority of our members, some of whom also called out the inconsistencies of our moderating style. Sadly this thread has now been deleted after it went onto it's third page of responses. For your edification though here are some of those responses which I saved from that thread before it was pulled.

Thank you for bearing with me and now if I may I would lke to respond to some of the replies to this thread.

As I said above I don't see that HIAG's contributions on the Arsenal board have been lacking in good forum etiquette. he has posted with reasoned argument and banter but there are times this is taken wrongly. It seems it only takes a small spark from whatever source for a debate to be taken out of context and become a raging inferno. I don't visit the Spurs board much but it seems that Gooners are so sensitive these days that they prefer to shoot first and ask questions later.


And Piskie again

I think if you look at all of HIAG's posts on the Arsenal board, you will find that banter is only a relatively small part of his contribution and when he may as you claim, resort to the greater of sins, I believe it is only when he is goaded to it. I would accept that the avatar, well produced as it is ( well done on the technique Ensil ) may not have been necessary but do you think he would have even bothered with this if it had not been suggested and the trend of engagement had not fallen away when it could so easily have been arrested if not only HIAG was reached but the others as well. Quite a few of posts emanating from our side are full of vitriol which is needless and has no place in a place of reasoned discussion. You talk of not wishing to over moderate yet you censure HIAG and not some of the vicious material on our board. The line is drawn but not it seems, with fairness.

I appreciate what you are trying to say but keeping calm and some order surely has to be done fairly. It seems the end justifies the means even if it means right and wrong are not handled in an even-handed manner.


For members who had been asking, HIAG isn't here to comment because he was banned by mistake from the WHL forum!!!


I apologise that this post has been a long one but this saga has also taken it's time to play out. HIAG came to the Arsenal board with good intention. There was good banter even and the occasional ribbing. However no one can actually say that there was ill will on his part nor that he failed to observe good forum practice. Given the emotional character of the football supporter being what it is, HIAG's attempts to engage in reasoned debate are even regarded with condemnation and disdain so it was probably only a matter of time that his intentions would be misconstrued with the result of a mob-like coming together of opinion which as you would rightly assume, is not shared by everyone. This forum is relatively young but what it is to become is dependent on how it is run.

 

Mr RvB, I thank you greatly for taking the time to set all of that out, and for being a friend. My fear is, however, that you are pissing into the proverbial wind, as I am certain that the Gooners who orchestrated my removal from their board know exactly what they are doing and why they are doing it. Thick people absolutely abhor intelligence, for no reason other than the fact that it will always defeat them. Look at how the Nazis treated intellectuals during the 30s and 40s. There is no reasoning with blind hatred. I accept that.

The only way that this forum will be rid of this kind of pettiness is when the site owner has the courage to enforce a no-ban policy. However, I cannot see that that is going to happen any time soon.

Again, thank you for your support (and those of a couple other Gooners). If only you guys ruled the roost over on your board, instead of the imbeciles and their patsy so-called moderators.

 

Godwin's Law.
You lose!

I think that there are about 3 people who are currently banned from the Spurs board.
I'm sure that nobody misses the contributions of at least one of them.
It's an essential tool, in my opinion.

It's like nuclear weaponry.
You don't want to use it much, but the fact that it's there is a very useful deterrent.

 

Hello Mr H

Well, it is what it is unless change cometh.


Regards pal

 

Having moderated on another board before I have had to reluctantly take action against a most troublesome member. Thus I can see that it would be wise to maintain an arsenal so to speak. Pun not exactly intended

However, what if it is used against the wrong party? I recall the parable of Sodom and Gomorrah

 

Perhaps, except when it is used merely as a means of suppression.

Which ever way you cut it, there is absolutely no justification for banning me from any board on this site, and if you support my ban (even by the act of saying nothing) you are no better than idiots that orchestrated it. And, make no mistake, it was an orchestration. As Mr RvB has stated, there is absolutely nothing in my history that justified a banning. This is, yet again, nothing more than removing the victim so as not to have to deal with the mob. It's cowardly, it's craven, and it is utterly unjust.

Perhaps there are instances where bans have been justified, but I rather suspect that they are obvious cases, involving vile individuals, where none of the partisan crowd would have offered them any support. That certainly cannot be said of me, in relation to the Gooners' board.

 

On larger boards there are multiple moderators.
This should reduce the chances of anyone being picked on.

You should be alright, as long as you don't look back.