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Technology, how far?

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  1. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    With goal line technolgy looking like it's going to be delayed even longer, how far should we go with technology having an influence on the game?


    Red card decision, offsides, or just leave it as it is?



    Football Association general secretary Alex Horne has ruled out goal-line technology being utilised in the Premier League next season.

    Horne revealed tests into the accuracy of various systems would not be complete in time for the start of the 2012-13 campaign, with 2013-14 now a more realistic target.

    The Premier League had hoped the current season would be the last to feature contentious goal-line decisions.

    But the International Football Association Board (IFAB), who must agree any change, are not set to give the green light to any technology until after this summer's European Championship
    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11661_7225591,00.html
     
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  2. Cheik the room

    Cheik the room Well-Known Member

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    Overdoing the posts today commachio <whistle> i would have it only for goal line decisions to start off with, see how that goes. i also want them to introduce a rule where players can get a 3 game ban if video replays show them diving or feining injury.
     
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  3. mitchthemakem

    mitchthemakem Well-Known Member

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    Cheik this is probably the first and last time i totally agree with you.

    I think it should only be used for goal line technology otherwise we may as well do away with refferees. I also think diving if proven without doubt players should be banned
     
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  4. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    I'm 100% for goal line technology. But I'm not too sure about the rest, probably leaving it at that during games. Although I'm not entirely certain conerning whether similar technology for off-sides is as neccessary, or not.

    I would however like diving etc punished post game.

    I don't understand how goal line technology couldn't be implemented with immediate effect. It's already there for sports like tennis and cricket (with the latter surely being much more complex than whether a ball crosses a line).
     
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  5. Cheik the room

    Cheik the room Well-Known Member

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    If we have it for offsides, the linesman are out of a job. It's true that a huge part of football is refereeing errors, they give us something to talk about. But the goal line is the most crucial part of a pitch, it is the only part of a pitch where it is decided whether or not a team will score a goal, so huge injustice if mistakes are made in this crucial area. Anywhere else on the pitch, and its just the rub of the green.
     
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  6. MrRAWhite

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    I agree with Cheik on this one...Goal line technology is the one that can be totally objective, that is, was the ball over the line or not?...Other decisions such as red cards, penalties etc are more subjective and open to opinion.
     
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  7. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    Surely offsides can be objective as well.
     
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  8. Commachio

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    What about red cards..i.e the everton one at the weekend..which has been over turned, but may have cost them the game.
     
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  9. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    The Everton one was clear to all not a worthy of a red. Not all challenges are so clear cut, and would therefore need a good degree of analysis by a human, rather than technology indicacting an offside or a goal, and therefore would still be prone to error.
     
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  10. MrRAWhite

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    Some of the offside decisions are so close, that without the correct camera angle, could still be debatable and take an awful long time to reach decisions..
     
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    If people would like to refer to my first post, can I point out that I did say I wasn't too sure about using it for offsides. MrRAWhite raises a good issue of how long these decisions would take. In rugby they don't seem too long again in certain circumstances help to raise the tension.

    However, the point remains that technology could be used to detect offsides with minimal human interaction.

    [QUOTE]If we have it for offsides, the linesman are out of a job. It's true that a huge part of football is refereeing errors, they give us something to talk about. But the goal line is the most crucial part of a pitch, it is the only part of a pitch where it is decided whether or not a team will score a goal, so huge injustice if mistakes are made in this crucial area. Anywhere else on the pitch, and its just the rub of the green. [/QUOTE]

    I think you are wrong there. The rest is very sensible.
     
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  12. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    In the NFL, even though i havnt seen it this year, they have cameras placed every couple of feet on the roof facing the play, so they can rotate the view and whatever happens, on any part of the field, they can see exactly what happened.

    Not sure if that would be feasable in football though, but its possible to do.
     
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  13. Black Cat Kiwi

    Black Cat Kiwi Well-Known Member

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    Even Boeing finally got the "Dreamliner" in the air faster than FIFA or the Football Association can make a decision involving technology <doh>
     
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  14. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Dont want it at all.

    A ref sees it in real time ONCE. How many of us have made a decision at the match, reviewed it on MoTD and realised we were wrong. Refs have been about since football began.
    Lets tell Sky to f*ck off with all their cameras, angles etc. Oh sorry all the greedy clubs have accepted the money.
    Who is driving this technology? Is it Sky again, the clubs, the fans.
    eg, A team scores its over the line, ref waves play on. Defending team breaks away scores a goal. Ref then decides to review the original "non goal" and awards it. Can just imagine that going down well with clubs and fans.
    We will end up like american football where a game lasts about 6 effin hours what with offsides, time outs.
    For me the technology can f*ck right off.
     
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