I'm sure you are too thick skinned to worry about that Beth. I have never met you so I couldn't possibly comment on your size. Too many people already jumping to very wrong conclusions on this thread already - isn't there!!
You were back to the wall for the draw there Ellers. Think your manager is well happy with that point!!
Absolutely. Even as we speak, he's still congratulating himself on the cretinous decision to take off our two best players when we were battering you and looking for a second goal, ensuring a draw at best.
No, it was a deliberate UP YOURS and it just puts backs up. There was no need. The Racial Equality banner got undiluted applause before the match The racial equality movement should never promote US and THEM. Our players use of the gestures after scoring was unhelpful
The ref didn't seem to deem it unacceptable, else he would have booked them. I've seen far more inflammatory goal celebrations from players of all creeds, so to get your knickers in a twist over this seems rather petty
My knickers are in place, thanks for asking. Given the uproar over the booing last Saturday, no referee is going to dare to book players for taking the knee and raising a clenched fist, in case that referee is accused of racism (such is the hysteria of the debate). It's simply that if the racial equality movement want to take people WITH them, it's unhelpful for its supporters to use it's gestures to mock and provoke people, as Chair and BOS did last night. My view
Before the game - The players scored a knee, the arm embrace and the stand. The raised fist. The banner. During the game - The Chair scored. After the game - The shirt was raised. Final result - Kick It Out Won.
To a certain extent what you're saying aligns with this Obama quote from the other day - even though he was talking about the phrase 'defund the police' rather than taking the knee. There's a balance to be struck between (a) standing up for what you believe in; (b) getting heard [uncontroversial statements don't get media pick up sadly]; (c) taking people with you [can be hard to reconcile with (a) and (b) sometimes.] Where the balance is I suppose is a subjective judgement. please log in to view this image
Exactly right. A really good quote by Obama. On such an important issue as equality for all in society, you need a message that takes people with you, and is not adversarial and which breeds resentment and resistant.
