PNP The PL was formed to take advantage of TV money and to make sure the top clubs received the lions share of it. This tilts the whole football league in favour of the top clubs, making it very difficult for clubs like Notts.Forest or Derby County to repeat their success of the past. The elite have become even more elite. The attendances at football had dropped because of the hooligan violence this had already been addressed and the crowds were coming back, nothing to do with SKY. Please tell me what SKY have improved in football because I can't see it?
Of course because it is their major source of income (SKY) that they are worried about. This reduces the value (in money terms) of the PL product and who knows could even lead to live football making a reappearance on the BBC.
My considered response to that Luke is Bollocks! Sexed up football!! what does that mean? Turning the most popular game on the planet into what? Oh the most popular game on the planet. Football has sexed up SKY, without it they would have struggled to survive, what they put into football pales into insignificance compared to what they have taken from it.
The whole point of the landlady's argument was being able to show games on a Saturday afternoon.The landlord of my local has both SKY and a foreign satellite system.I asked him if he was worried about being caught.He told me SKY didn't care about him showing games that they weren't showing as it didn't affect them.
Fair points GCM -but there is a symbiosis between Sky and the Prem, so this ruling could worry both of them For example, it might encourage that landlord to drop Sky as so many have done and go 'completely foreign'. There's a massive problem for Sky live football these days as more or less every game that Sky covers, certainly all the Prem games and big Cup games, are covered by other broadcasters somewhere in the world. Therefore, where's a broadcast there's a satellite or computer that can pick it up and rebroadcast it. The ease of worldwide technology nowadays is a mega headache for Sky, the chickens in the global village may have come home to roost. I remember going into a bar in the Canary islands which was well known for showing every Spurs game possible, ie all Prem and big Cup games, all that Sky showed and much, much, more. How did he do it, well he had a system that seemed hooked up to about every major football broadcaster in the world, can't find it in Greece, fine we'll look on the Arab networks, not there, let's check Scandanavia, etc. It was phenomenal, he simply flicked through the world like we used to flick BBC and ITV in the 'good old days'. Needless to say he found that particular Spurs game no danger, v West Brom, 3pm Sat. So confident was he and his punters that people used to reserve their seats for the Spurs games in advance. (No booking fee either Absolutely fantastic service,
sorry goonercymag,i was'nt having a go at you,i realised you were agreeing with me,i was trying to impress my point on the others,who seem to think it's sky's doing
First Luke I am not demonising SKY they can do that quite well for themselves. Modern technology has brought the game to all corners of the globe, this would have happened with or without SKY. In the UK the wider audience has been created by changes to the stadiums and television in general. The biggest upsurge for the game in England (in modern times) was England winning the world cup in 1966 and the attraction of the middle classes. The result of which has seen gate prices increase by a huge amount thus preventing many of the original working class fans from seeing their clubs live. SKY were not the catalyst they just used their financial muscle to take advantage of the huge popularity of football and use it (by RESTRICTING access) to launch their satelite tv service. Many seem to have forgotten that SKY was heading for failure before it took on football.
I for one am totally pissed off with SKY.As someone who makes the effort to see the vast majority of my team's games live i'm fed up with kick off times being changed.I know Spurs like Arsenal have supporters clubs the length and breadth of the country and many of our respective fans travel many hours and miles to get to games.An example for me would be if it's a lunch time kick off,i have to leave home at 4-30am and if it's a Saturday tea time kick off i don't get home until 1-00am.Arsenal's next two home games are 1-30 Sunday kick offs.My supporters club is not running a bus to these games so i have to go by train,the only problem being the first train i can travel on arrives 15 minutes into Euston before kick off.
Yep LDL, that's a thing I hate about Sky - their stupid idea that football began in 1992 Who has scored the most top flight flight goals, not it's not Shearer, it's Greaves. He scored about 100 more, Shearer isn't even close, but you'd never know it from Sky.
Correct. Anybody who cares to look at England's record goalscorers will find that Greavesie scored 44 goals in 57 games for England. That's only 5 less than Charlton, who is the current record holder; having taken 106 games to score those 5 more goals. Still, to this day, the most deadly, natural finisher I've ever seen.
Hi NSS - I was referring to Greaves 357 goals in Div 1 - Shearer got 260 in the Prem. But Sky spout on about Shearer, and never seem to mention Greaves. Though your point about England goals is well made
Anyone see the report on Five News about this one? They kept saying it was the Premier League that were the sole losers in the verdict, pretending that Sky wouldn't be affected in the slightest (coincidentally, Five News is made by...guess who?)
I never really knew any of this,as i've lived in Spain since before the EPL started.I just use Canel+ who show 2or3 3pm kick-offs and the 5pm.On a Sunday they show another 2 games and also show the monday evening game.Anythingelse i want to watch i just use the internet.All for about 40euros a month(this includes alot of other stations).
For years Pat we suffered in England as we couldn't get to see 3pm Sat games on TV. But now thanks to the 'foreign invasion of decoders and the like', plus the wonders of the internet, you can get to see just about any Spurs game you want on some form of screen or another.
Yeah i only found this out since i watched something on the news about the case.Seems bad not to be able to watch a game at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon.That was always the highlight of my week when i lived in London going to the Lane.
Well, you can still do that Pat, IF you have a season ticket, or bronze priority, though even the latter isn't a 100% guarantee. But for many of us who don't go often/at all, it's great now we can watch Spurs on a screen somewhere.
Now all this is in the open Sky will simply renegotiate their deals with the providers who beam their content to foreign countries. Where they feel that these providers are damaging their business, they will not renegotiate with them after their current deal is finished. Everybody wants what Sky have right now and I expect the evil empire will manage this situation quickly and efficiently. The greedy pub landlady should have just payed the fine. She has bought this situation to a head and ruined it for everybody else.
