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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    You would think the French and Spanish fleets could just sit on their side of the line and wait for the fish to swim over, surely that would be simple <whistle>

    You really do swallow everything you're fed don't you.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Here's a free piece of advice: if the basis of your argument is "You would think..." your argument couldn't be more enfeebled if you were on the tuberculosis ward, especially when the obvious counterargument is whether you think British vessels will stick behind their imaginary line (before the ultimate follow-up, namely sticking my tongue out and going "Ner ner, ner-ner" considering your "argument" is the sort my five year old niece would make

    More than anything else, you have to ignore decades of tubthumping about fishing rights where we've had various people bellowing about this and that, from waffling gargoyle Nigel Farage getting a plum spot on the fisheries committee and saying how he'd fight for the rights of our fishermen and never bother showing up to votes and only showing up to enough meetings to qualify for his pay packet to the increasingly bizarre tweets from John Redwood over the past few weeks where he appears to believe that we can bend fish to obey our will

    The fact is you need to actually have an informed opinion on something for once in your life, because you do have a terrible habit of sounding like a complete idiot
     
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  3. Diego

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    I'm more informed than you it would seem. The hold up on fishing rights is due to the loss of revenue to Spanish and (in particular) French Fleets.
    Macron has been warned that he must not give any ground on rights or he will feel a major backlash from the industry (which is many time larger than ours).

    You of course, have been told it's all down to "Little England" being awkward when they only have a small fishing fleet. This is because our potential biggest customers are just sailing in and catching their requirements.

    If this is such a small thing why are the French making such a big deal of it?
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    You clearly aren't informed, for the simple reason that you're proving exactly what I said about you to be completely valid, and you don't even seem to realise it

    When I state that you have to ignore so much in order to reach Dan Woottoonn's conclusion, the one thing you shouldn't do is ignore what I said about decades of belligerent tubthumping that's little more than playing to the gallery and having no intention of actually acting on it, with evidence of just how little acting upon it being in Farage's attendance for fisheries committee votes, because you wanted to say "Little Englander" and think that you looked clever

    Well here's the problem: you don't look clever, especially when your previous attempt at an argument was genuinely childish stuff that has the credibility of...well, you

    You want to know why the French are making such a big deal of fishing rights? Let me explain it to you: in 2018 (the most easily-available numbers that I could dig up, i.e. not behind a paywall or an AdBlock NoNo message) the French imported 592,000 tons of fish while exporting 182,000 tons, or to put it another way the vast majority of fish the French eat - cod, for example - is imported. Would you like to guess one of the main countries they import that fish from?

    And this is why you are so demonstrably, pitifully wrong: the French have not spent decades bellowing about fishing rights while doing less than a couple of TV chefs have done for their fishermen, and that isn't a joke as both Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall and Rick Stein have both done more to improve the rights of British fishermen than a single Tory MP or UKIP MEP has in the last 25 years, we have - and we've been doing it because it's a pavlovian response, which is why Farage went buddying up to them during the EU referendum campaign and why Redwood is spouting all manner of utterly bizarre nonsense, not because anyone knows or cares about the subject in much the same way you do whenever you pop on over to our board to add nothing of value as per usual
     
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  5. Diego

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    Why are you so obsessed with ***arge? the man is (and always has been) a non entity.
    The French might just have not been screaming about fishing rights for decades because, well, they actually have them. They're screaming quite a bit now though with the thought of losing them.

    I will drop 5Live an E-Mail tomorrow to let them know that the EU political experts they interviewed this afternoon are complete idiots, i may pass on your user name and this board address so they can contact you for the true facts.
     
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  6. SpursDisciple

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    That is the worst argument I have ever read <laugh> - you've explained why it is important to French fleets, but not why UK are taking such a stand on it. We export most of our fish to the continent - playing hard ball over fishing rights is stupid beyond all measure. Pissing off our major customer - and inviting crippling tariffs strike you as a good plan?
     
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  7. Diego

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    Keep thinking and you will get there <ok>
     
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  8. Diego

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    Tell that to the EU.
     
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  9. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    And there's you having a go about some of us going on about the U.S. election a month ago. Brexit vote was four and a half years ago bro.....

    and we're witnessing the "easiest deal in history" <laugh>
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    Why am I citing a clear and obvious example that supports my argument, you ask?

    Well for one thing, because I have an argument that can be supported, while you have nothing but an assumption that you're clinging to no matter how obvious it is that you don't have a clue
     
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    And in this morning's Lying Tory Scum update...
     
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    I forgot to post this yesterday, but here's how much of a piece of bullshitting scum he is

    Is he going to accuse the Tory election manifesto of "displaying ignorance or dishonesty", perchance?
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    ...what was that about people swallowing anything?

    In other news, Mark Zuckerberg owns us now

     
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    I wonder if Trump will be selling the new potion to Republicans at the back door of the White House?
     
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    Didn't I read years ago of the Japanese fishing boats around our shores taking fish and frie(?) .
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    Probably should've been doing it last week...

    However, things could be worse...
     
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    How's William Shakespeare getting on? It's very 2020 that you can actually ask that question and it's not ****ing nonsense.
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    I can't be alone in imagining it wasn't a coincidence that a bloke in Stratford-upon-Avon named Bill Shakespeare just so happening to be first on the list for the vaccine?

    Should we be worried if the 93 year old Ossie Mosely of W1 also happened to be one of the first to get a jab in his region?
     
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    Yep, that's definitely someone that you want to bring up parallels with...
     
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