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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Evil Jimmy Krankie

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  2. Southern A

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  3. RIC

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    ok
     
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  4. E.T. Fairfax

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    I think the fact that the club is an absolute basket case its perfectly understandable that the ITKnars will often find themselves dropped within the ITFUCKNars bracket.
     
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  5. RIC

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  6. Blyth_bucaneer

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    NCO shouts stand by your beds, officer commanding or higher ( sometimes platoon / troop SGT) enters room with troop NCOs, room comes to attention and officer inspects the troops. In the training regime this usually involves lots of kit getting thrown out of windows etc, miscreants doing lots of press ups and shuttle sprints up and down the corridors. Basically hours of attention to detail destroyed in minutes. All in the name of character building.
     
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  7. DEREK ROY HENDERSON

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    Surely we need to forget getting a manager that will struggle in the championship if they succeed in getting us promoted. In my opinion we need someone who can not only get us out of this league but can grab the whole of the club by the neck and give it a huge shake up. They need to address everything from recruitment, youth policy, AOL, through to fitness and mentality and tactics of all our players who seem to be lacking in all departments. Yes we must get out of this league but we must make sure we wont come crashing back down again.
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  9. Huds0n

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    I honestly hate the thought of him making a profit out of us after what has gone on, but my love for the club far outweighs my hatred for Donald
     
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  10. Southern A

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    In my view, anybody capable of getting us out of this league, is capable of keeping us in the next. If they can get this lot sorted, then they will have shown they can make it work.

    However, if they don't, we can replace them then. I don't buy into this theory that we need to find the golden bullet like Sheffield Utd did with WIlder or Bournemouth did with Howe. Neither of those clubs appointed those managers thinking "great, they're going to take us all the way". They appointed them thinking they were the best manager for the time.

    Clearly our long term planning has been ****. But that doesn't mean having a long term plan guarantees success. It's a bit of a misnoma - for every Wilder and Howe there are 20 clubs that have tried similar and its gone to **** and they've had to start again.

    In summary - we need to focus on the hole we are in, without doing anything that takes our eye of the future. We need to keep our eye on the next stage but not to the extent we forget what we need to do now.
     
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  11. Oldsandy

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    ... and of junior nco’s. Don’t forget us beloved corporals!
     
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  12. Whittylad

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    Thanks for that. Makes it clear.
     
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  13. Gromit

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    I'd say most of that is the job of the sporting director, if we do go with that model.
     
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  14. Essayyeffcee

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    But surely that is where we've been going wrong for years - planning for the short term! Yes, someone with a bit of nous should be able to get this team out of league 1 but by planning on getting someone in who might just get us promoted all the way to the prem is a better option than someone who can just get us promoted to the championship and keep us there - which in itself is not that bad an option as it stands at the minute! But wouldn't it be better (and probably cheaper) to get someone in to get us all the way than to say thanks and here's your P45 and start again?
     
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    absolutely - but frankly Cowley or Cook are as likely to take us all the way as Poyet is. Nobody has ever taken a team from bottom to top and already been somebody that is able to be identified as a "premier league manager" at the beginning. When Wilder and Howe went to Sheffield Utd and Bournemouth they weren't immediately seen as people that could take them all the way - they just did.
     
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  18. Southern A

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    well that's different at least
     
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  19. Essayyeffcee

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    True but as its been mentioned before on here with this takeover and the club and the fans as low as anything at the minute - wouldn't it be better to go for a manager who has more of a chance to get us up and then be backed to try and go again or at least be up there challenging. I feel that the next appointment (as well as the appointment of the sporting director if we're going in that direction) HAS to be someone that would ignite the imagination of the fans to start to get the club jumping again and get some momentum going. If that happens then the fans will back it to the rafters
     
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