We do it because it’s a laugh and a social thing too. Something to do, isn’t it? We’ve done some great stuff together and met lots of new people and made new friends. Been privileged enough to experience some things we wouldn’t have had we not done WMS. We’d do it if 100 people listened. I think ‘shock jocks’ is a bit harsh. I’d like to think we get the balance right, but we definitely won’t every time.
I can understand pessimism if Parkinson had remained, the takeover collapsed and the whole sorry state was to continue. But we have a new manager, new owners and the possibility that we'll still have an investment from FPP. Despite this some people just can't take a day off from all the conspiracy theories, sly denigration of the new owner and doom laden stories of how Methven will be running the club. There are clubs on the verge of going under so, whichever was you twist things, we've had a massive stroke of good fortune. Other clubs must look at Sunderland forums/fanzines and wonder if the claims of the support being 'toxic' are true. Managers, who will never be employed, are being criticised in advance just to get in a few punches before the chance is missed. Players, long since gone, are berated. And improbable scenarios are constructed on the flimsiest of hints and hunches. Some people have far too much time on their hands.
So true and I hope that the family of our new manager (whoever he is) doesn't pay too much attention to the Jonah's on these forums, otherwise he may be well advised to give us a wide berth.
relax lads, i have a feeling all this is going to work out well for the club...just because something has not been announced does not mean it is not sorted and waiting for the right moment and in business, that moment could be any number of things. maybe the new bosses want to make a big statement by announcing all their plans along with the staff they want to put those plans into action.
If a football season was a boxing round, our last few rounds in the Prem ended with us against the ropes, dodging and ducking, grabbing the clinch and when the bell went, wondering how on earth we were still standing. The one time that was different was with Big Sam. Finished that season with some good combinations and a few knock out blows. When he left, it was like getting a late shot to the knackers and we went down, hit the canvas, went through the canvas and slammed against the concrete base of the ring. And we're still there. Been a tough few years but I'm fairly hopeful we're not going to be in that position again. From what's been said the new ownership knows the importance of having a solid football club with the right long term planning being implemented across the board that can take the loss of a manager, no matter how good they are, and not fall to bits because of it. I'm looking forward to things at the club again, rising up from the concrete and getting back into the ring.
Tale of 2 forums eh? If you’re positive on RTG you get slated. If you’re negative here, you get slated. There isn’t much in between! Given a lot of people probably began posting here due to the constant negativity and trolling on RTG it’s probably not surprising this forum is on the positive end of the spectrum. I think people have a right to be skeptical - the club has been so shambolic for the past 12-18 months we are all truly hoping for a clean slate. This takeover is clearly going to be a massive shake up but it’s not quite a clean slate. At this stage Methven & Donald will still be involved in some capacity, 2 people who have asset stripped the club to within an inch of its life, appointed their mates, appointed Parky, and have lied and abused the fan base continuously. Then there’s Rodwell, an operator who was instrumental in seeing half of the season ticket holders not renew after ballsing up the refund scheme on 3 different occasions. Rodwell was also vocal in advocating for a short term bailout from the premier league Big 6 and effectively selling off our right to ever compete in the Premier League. These 3 cannot be trusted and until the new structure is sorted, people will ask questions. I don’t buy the “wait until it’s done then complain” argument, by then it could be too late. This isn’t just the fanzines pushing their skepticism, journalists and ex players have all shared their concerns. If you’re going to dismiss all of these that’s up to you but it’s clear why skepticism is about. Before Madrox took over anyone who expressed any skepticism was absolutely piled on, until we know the new structure and appointments there is no reason why people can’t ask questions. I am certainly skeptical, but incredibly excited. I think all the managerial front runners all have their positive attributes and I could get behind any of them. The sporting director appointment is as exciting as it is crucial and that appointment will be more telling than the manager in my opinion. It’s ok to be skeptical, being totally dismissive and calling it a sham (which I’ve seen) is clearly going overboard and that’s not constructive.
They will also be the people who refuse the covid vaccine because the government are putting chips in them so they can control them like robots
Cobber mate ya flamin’ galah, we’ve been shambolic for a lot lot longer than 12-18 months. Our gradual state of decay has been going on for decades.
Haha of course mate, but I think the last 12-18 months is what is stoking up all of the emotions of who should be involved going forward.
I agree with nearly everything you said mate other than the bit about not wanting to wait and see before we can judge and complain. Only down to the fact that although we despise and do not trust these chancers there isn't a lot that we can do. So fingers crossed, I'll always be sceptical when SD and CM are involved but at the moment I'm very excited
