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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Late goal Scorer

    Late goal Scorer Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if the manager and DoF are relatively obscure and not known particularly in British football. I think I’d prefer something slightly less radical like Pearson/SKP but if it is three we’ve never heard of I’d still applaud the fact it’s an attempt at changing the culture of the club.
     
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  2. 6inarow

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    I want us to go all out and make a statement tbh tho mate....I want the best we can afford and convince to come here....I dont want someone who has got a good record with Colchester
     
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  3. The Berk

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    It’s got to be announced today, why else would PP have got the bullet on a Sunday.
     
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  4. Wibble

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    Didn't Juan mention about tapping into the Uruguayan football market for players ? Maybe Gus is the ideal option if so...
     
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  5. Late goal Scorer

    Late goal Scorer Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, but I’m okay with kind of obscure, doubt many British football fans knew much about Wenger. Quality is the key.
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

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    This is it. What's the point of getting someone everyone's heard of if they're just going to be like Parkinson? Anyone any good operating in this country already is unlikely to come to League 1. So you're looking at someone good from the same approximate level, someone up and coming from lower down, or someone from abroad who fancies a crack at England.
     
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  7. Evil Jimmy Krankie

    Evil Jimmy Krankie Well-Known Member

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    So he can get down the Job Centre first thing today. Our club is thoughtful like that. No need to kick him when he’s down you know.
     
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  8. 6inarow

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    I dont know about that tho, by all accounts Pearson was ready to travel up for talks before we went for the cheap option in Parkinson
     
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  9. Red n white Tractor

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    Hopefully the new owners will change things at the root and that seems to be the message that’s being put out by the ITK lads. We need to stop being a soft touch as a club and the players need to find out that they can’t just tur. Up when they feel like it abymore
     
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  10. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    That's what I mean. It would just be Parkinson again with Pearson.
     
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  11. Gus,it's continuous,sustained under-achievement which has existed for decades and has got under the skin of everyone involved with the club. It's our DNA and apart from a spell under Peter Reid at the end of the 90's.....and you have first hand experience of that....and an odd season here or there,it's largely been the same for over 60 years. One trophy win at Wembley,numerous other visits all ending in defeat,countless false dawns,hopes and dreams repeatedly dashed after some faint smell of success dared to raise its' inviting head to tease us yet again. It's endemic at the club and invades the very fabric of anyone who joins. As you say,it requires a root and branch exorcism of this toxic mentality,it'll take time and effort,and it now falls to the new owners to be the latest to try.
    It will require inspiration of the kind not often seen, a totally new culture and ethic, but it is possible, and is being willed to succeed by every fibre of our collective being.
     
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  12. I want it to be longer term appointments of people with the necessary skills who buy into what is needed and are given the time and resources to get the job done. Good clubs can't be built in a season,it requires much longer than that so as to get the Academy lads coming into the first team set-up with the necessary qualities. This is a 5 year project to start with and we need to be done with wholesale management and playing staff overhaul every summer.
     
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  13. 6inarow

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    Dont know how you come to that conclusion, Pearson has played top flight football most of his life, been in and around top flight football as a manager as well as getting Leicester promoted a couple of times up through the leagues to the Premier, hes served his time without a doubt lower leagues up to top flight, hes a polar opposite to Phil Parkinson
     
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  14. DAPARKERSAFC

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    Pearson is levels above Parkinson and the polar opposite in terms of management and character
     
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    My gut feeling is that we will promote from within the club.
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    Having played top flight football doesn't mean anything. Many of the best managers had unremarkable playing careers.
    Pearson's record everywhere but Leicester is poor and completely comparable to Parkinson's. Both have done the rounds of average clubs. His success at Leicester was based largely on the excellent work done by Steve Walsh in the background. As soon as he left there he went to Derby and failed to make any kind of impact.
    Even if you consider him to be a leading manager, when has appointing an established big name manager worked for us in the last 40 years? We've had most success with managers on their way up- Denis Smith- or who had yet to have any sustained success- Peter Reid.
     
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  17. Julio

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    This week is the week it all happens i reckon :)

    Finally after around 16 months its nearly over :)
     
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  18. The Redbaron

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    Gus made some real minging signings in reality.. He took us on the Gus bus to Wembley granted and some times nice football but overall, he was just another of the run of the mill managers.. He has done very little since.
     
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    I’m never sure about going back, in terms of re-appointing a manager we’ve had before.
     
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  20. Billy Batts

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    There isn't anybody.
     
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