Mate you have fallen well and truly down the wormhole. Take a look at the source you have just quoted, who is behind it and what their aims are. Summit News is far right extremist site prone to promote conspiracy theories and run by a previous editor of Infowars. Just have a look at some of the other articles on there If you want serious stuff on Covid check the various medical and microbiological scientific journals. There are a load of peer reviewed articles there. And by the way your figures on deaths from pneumonia and influenza are way out based on the ONS statistics for the whole of the UK. As an example the combined male and female deaths in the UK from the two illnesses were just over 30000 in 2017. The figures you quote for England and Wales indicate over 56000.
I'm sure they are very intelligent Jimi. Just like this guy. But he is easily dismissed apparently. Its Imperial College guys or nothing for some...
I'm not sure why it would matter what the source is to be honest? The relevance is you have a very intelligent well qualified person using his medical standing to give a perspective on the current 'pandemic'. To dismiss him simply because he is erring from the script. Perhaps this website are the only one willing to hear him? Its a big problem at present isn't it. If he hasn't said these things, or doesn't have that credibility he appears to then that's a different matter. I haven't fallen down a wormhole mate. I'm simply not stupid enough to sit and just accept one version. The scientific community is huge. As I say you only have to look at The Great Barrington declaration to see what's going on with the media etc. I'm sorry if you think this is all ok, but I think people are sleepwalking. Why can't there be an open debate? Why do we need censor all these experts simply because they don't fit with the populous movement? We haven't made the scientific progress we have by simply cutting off anyone is not with the programme. Its dangerous. As for who funds things, I suppose you think Bill Gates is just a nice honest guy who has the worlds well being at heart...
Ah the predictable classic guilting technique of the stupid. You're selfish if you don't do what we do. You're selfish if you question things. Why won't you just join us over this cliff...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You keep quoting figures based on dodgy testing. Its irrelevant. The PCR test is not fit for purpose. This reminds of that classic computer games Lemmings.
You can play golf in Scotland buddy I know quite a few lads who have been up to Berwick etc. I mean it would be questionable if you should be travelling there but they've had no issues.
Mate you're in rabbithole. You're in a wormhole. You've gone mad. You're a conspiracy theorist. You're just being selfish Have I missed any? I don't know why we have this going on. I find it hard to believe these scientists are all complicit in some big conspiracy theory. I have no idea which side is right but certainly the likes of Yeadon are making more sense. Certainly we need to open the debate and hear all experts, not just a chosen few. The one thing we do know in medical and scientific research, the more brilliant brains working on it the better. The guy who invented the PCR test was quite clear about its failings when you use incorrectly. He knows better than any of these so called experts, he did win a nobel prize for it afterall. Its important not to fall into the trap of simply saying the PCR test is crap. Or the PCR cannot work at all. There has been some very unscrupulous use of his comments to suggest that he said the test was not useful. Its not the case at all. It can work, its a very important test, but how its used is also very important. No amount of paid fact checkers can erode that either. It is important to note that the effectiveness of the testing works both ways too. Maybe that's a case of us rushing to get a way to test? The concern of why the antibody test was pushed so hard is more difficult to justify. These experts knew that was not our most important indicator in terms of our immune system. Its science 101 stuff so why were they doing that? They know full well T-cells are what is important in understanding our immune system. Again I have no idea why. I'm not for a moment suggesting COVID isn't a real thing, just as many of these scientists are not. What they and many other people are asking for is for the debate to be an open and honest one. Its just not good enough to keep dismissing different opinions that don't fit the narrative. Its dangerous and fairly stupid. Until that is the case I'm just not interested in following their bullshit rules or taking vaccines that have been rushed through testing. That goes against everything we've been doing in regards to vaccine testing to make them safe. Given the previously stringent testing that required up to 8 years to make it to market have paid out 11 billion in compensation for causing damage such autism etc, I can't understand why people would think one rushed through in a few months is gonna be ok. I get people dying is very sad, I would hope no one is wishing that fate on anyone. We shouldn't allow that to lead us to blinded and follow dodgy science like lemmings though.
The source makes all the difference. Science is not advanced by publishing on a far-right funded website but by publishing in peer reviewed journals, so that you generate discussion among your peers and demonstration that the conclusions you have arrived at are supported by genuine data. There are too many people who use the internet as a tool to support their opinions by quoting other peoples views that support them without looking at basic facts. You just did it with the deaths from pneumonia and flu. If you had downloaded the data from the ONS you would have seen that what you had quoted was wrong.
People are doing that on both sides of the argument though in regards to let’s lockdown harder or open up. For example Dr Hillary on GMB the other day said 600 people have died of COVID in the last 24 hours when that was not true those 600 were from not just those 24 hrs but also previous dates. It was used by him to scare people. This for me is one of my biggest worries they have made most of the public scared ****less. You have people driving cars by themselves with masks on and walking alone with them on as if the virus would jump out at them. Children’s mental health is suffering. I have 2 kids and my daughter is 9 and is autistic. She coped well in the first lockdown as it was summer and you could go out into the garden play in the paddling pool etc but now she is finding it hard. the amount of people who have missed cancer screenings or getting their heart etc checked these will all become people who will lose their lives not now but in months or years as they missed their life saving treatment. we need to hear other scientists not just the ones that want us to lockdown as their main focus is not loosing people to covid but they don’t seem to worry about the other issues that’s just up to the government. And peer review by the way there are many papers that have been blocked from being peer reviewed as it doesn’t follow the global path line. One is a huge study in Denmark by established scientists that showed masks don’t do much to stop the spread of anything. It was deliberately ignored and blocked from being peer reviewed. I am not a covid denier and not anti vax as I would be more than happy to take a vaccine but I just thing the response to this pandemic will eventually cause more harm than good and we will all look back at it and say it wasn’t the correct response.
I just don't see how it changes what the guy has said, or whether his credentials are valid? Peer review is certainly the standard way. What happens though when you have credentials, but you can't get your paper or study reviewed because its not fitting with the standard narrative? For instance the study into masks from Denmark, the only of its kind so you'd think people would be all over it, was unable to get peer reviewed initially (I believe it now has) because it didn't fit with the narrative. Those scientists were incredulous they were being treat with such contempt. Understandably so. So peer reviews are only as useful as those who are controlling them and how transparent they are. I believe this mask study shows the impact of masks to be incredibly minimal at best. Thus correlating with what that guy says. Yet the rhetoric worldwide at the moment is, don't wear a mask, you're just killing people unnecessarily. They haven't done a study to prove that masks work, they've just decided they do. So I find it bizarre that people accept one theory based on someone saying "this is so" but then dismiss another because its not mainstream, but has gone to the trouble of doing an actual scientific study? As I say I have no problem with COVID being a real thing, but if people can't see what is happening with regard to control of narrative via media, sections of the scientific community not being willing to listen any view point except their own, and they don't think thats a problem, they are clearly too stupid to understand the danger of that. People keep talking about the danger of social media, the danger of the internet and plastic scientists. I myself think that is a huge problem. However to pretend there is not a bigger issue which overrides all of this with those owning the media and thus controlling what people to believe to be true, is just blinkered beyond belief. I always find it interesting that people on here and elsewhere quickly jump to the conspiracy theorist tag if someone disagrees with the mainstream. It becomes a thing of ridicule. If one thing we've learnt in the history of mankind, its this kind of blinkered view often ends up being the real point of ridicule. The earth was flat because the mainstream at the time said so. No other theory would be accepted. This just repeats over and over, mankind never seems to learn. Its an in-built arrogance in us sadly. That and ability to just follow no questions asked.
The hotel was the Hilton bomonti and it really was something special... The fanny was also on another level.....
