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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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  1. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Oh ffs. All you need to do is drink a lot of Vodka :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    Guaranteed to break the ice at parties Kemps ?





     
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  4. tigerscanada

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    In a given population, if a lockdown prevents the spread of an illness, disease (e.g. Covid-19) by 50 %, the mortality rate in that given population for that particular disease is reduced by at least 50 %. Think about the R number impact - reducing the re-infection rate in that given population reduces the fatality rate of that population i.e. the mortality rate. (underlying health problems ignored). Simply because fewer individuals are contracting the disease. Mortality rate in the 50% who do not enter lockdown may contract the disease, but in the overall population, fewer people are exposed & get the affliction & hence die from it. i.e. lower mortality rate in said original population.
     
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    Thats fair , I was going on the Death to case ratio thinking as you simply cant suggest any other as lockdown itself has made a diff to the population mortality rate but can never truly be measured by how much as we simply do not have the case study to base it from .
     
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    I've just watched Coronavirus Pandemic - A Tale Of Two Washingtons.

    If you thought our lot were hopeless, then the US takes it to a whole new level.

    The most surprising thing for me, was how brilliantly the first case was handled in Seattle. They'd watched things unfold in Wuhan, they'd put all medical centres on high alert and put everything in place, so when the first case of a traveller from China with flu-like symptoms appeared, they were ready. They had a large amount of PPE, they had systems in place to transport patients in sealed pods to fully isolated hospital wards and they'd regularly run emergency pandemic exercises so all staff knew what they had to do. They had literally everything covered, at least they thought they had, but that was until the Federal government got involved.

    While Washington State was trying to trace and isolate everyone who'd been in contact with any case and attempting to get all residents to self-isolate and shut down businesses where possible, the president was telling everyone there was nothing to worry about and everyone should carry on as normal, he even went on national TV to call the Governor of Washington 'a snake'.

    I know most already consider him an imbecile, but when you see a blow by blow account of how he's handled things, it's a catalogue of incompetence.
     
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  8. balkan tiger

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    You are President Lukashenko and I claim my 5 pounds.

    How are things in Belarus these days?
     
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    Coronavirus rules will be relaxed over Christmas across the UK under a plan to let people celebrate with their families.

    Leaders in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have agreed their respective restrictions should change to be harmonised "for a small number of days" over the festive period.

    While the details are still being worked out, the aim of allowing "additional household bubbling" was confirmed in a statement released on Sunday.

    Boris Johnson is to detail his winter strategy on Monday afternoon and ministers will set out which tier each area is going into on Thursday.

    Several households - potentially three - could be allowed to create a bubble temporarily between 24 and 28 December.

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-ch...e-festive-season-12138882?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
     
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    Covid-19: Oxford University vaccine shows 70% protection.

    The coronavirus vaccine developed by the University of Oxford stops 70% of people developing Covid symptoms, a large scale trial shows.

    It is both a triumph and a disappointment after vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna showed 95% protection.

    However, the Oxford jab is far cheaper, and is easier to store and get to every corner of the world than the other two.

    So it will still play a significant role in tackling the pandemic, if it is approved by regulators.

    There is also intriguing data that suggests perfecting the dose could increase protection up to 90%.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635
     
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    70% is from a single dose, 90% is from two doses.

    I think both Pfizer and Moderna require two doses as well.
     
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    What did the trial show?
    More than 20,000 volunteers were involved, half in the UK, the rest in Brazil.

    There were 30 cases of Covid in people who had two doses of the vaccine and 101 cases in people who received a dummy injection.

    The researchers said it works out at 70% protection.

    When volunteers were given two "high" doses the protection was 62%, but this rose to 90% when people were given a "low" dose followed by a high one. It's not clear why there is a difference.

    "We're really pleased with these results," Prof Andrew Pollard, the trial's lead investigator, told the BBC.

    He said the 90% effectiveness data was "intriguing" and would mean "we would have a lot more doses to distribute."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55040635
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Wonder why Brazil?
    And if you believe drug companies results....
     
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    If it all goes tits up you end up with a load of dead Brazilians.
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

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  19. DMD

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    Anger is an N M E.
     
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  20. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    That’s the worst insult ever lol !!

    This all comes down to the with & from debate. For a period of time Mar - Aug (I think) anyone who dies with a positive test was recorded as a Covid death regardless of the actual causation of death. The example widely reported at the time was if someone with a positive test got run over by a bus it was Covid that killed them!!
     
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