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  1. DMD

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    Elephants are contagious!
    Be careful how you tread.
    An Elephant that's been trodden on
    Should be confined to bed!

    Leopards are contagious too.
    Be careful tiny tots.
    They don't give you a temperature
    But lots and lots - of spots.

    The Herring is a lucky fish
    From all disease inured.
    Should he be ill when caught at sea;
    Immediately - he's cured!


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  2. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

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    its impossible to be Covid free. Impossible!

    we’ve had the flu vaccine for 50 years ish, How are we doing on that flu free utopia? Not too good from my perspective

    Covid 19 will mutate at some point very very soon, the proposed vaccine will stop working then

    Do we all lockdown again then?

    Tbh we need @Sir Cheshire Ben input on this, he is the ONLY person qualified to inform us on this thread. This is what he does for a living
     
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  3. DMD

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    New Zealand is not a meaningful comparison either.
     
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    1.5 lines and you knew it was Spike.

    "Caw" said the crow.
    "Puckoon". A delightful read.
    I still have a copy on the systern in my master bog...

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/887348.Puckoon
     
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    Love a bitter Spike.



    He'd have made some interesting comments on the Mental Health Discussion Thread, I reckon.
     
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    He's described as being someone that suffered with his mental health, but it looked to me like he enjoyed every minute of it.
     
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    He did, but he was brilliant. Brought up with the the Goon Show. They were all nuts.
    I never read my son a bedtime story. A different episode of the G.Show every night sufficed.

     
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    My favourite Spike depression story is the one where he was in the middle of a depressive episode, in bed, consumed by his own infinite misery, when his young daughter came in with a glass of water.

    'What the hell are you doing', sez Spike.

    'Bringing you a glass of water', replies his daughter.

    'But I don't want a bloody glass of water', snaps Spike.

    'Maybe not', replies the concerned lass. 'But I want to give you something to make you happier. And this is all I've got'.



    Life can be ****. But as long as there's people who love you, there's hope.
     
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  9. Steven Toast

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    Well, they're not 100% gone but they were down to less than 10 cases a day when the lockdown was lifted, they're back to how they were before and we aren't. Like I said, they had a small spike, then they've had 24 cases in the last week. We've had over 20,000. Their people almost to an individual followed the instructions and it was dealt with. Ours couldn't wait to get out again (which isn't surprising, but hasn't been helpful) Their communication was clear and measures were taken before the virus started to spread and as soon as the virus started to materialise across the nation, they were immediately locked down and didn't come out until the case number was at least in single digits. When our pubs opened, we had 624 new cases that day. We have more people, granted, but the attitudes between the two nations have been completely different. One took preventive measures before the virus properly took hold, one waited until it had already settled in. Only one of those countries is now going about life as normal. If we end the lockdown just because it looks like it's going in the right direction, it'll just go back up again and it will have to be lockdown again. Or, we could just extend it until the virus is down to single digits and quarantine those people to ensure the virus can no longer spread.

    I've never suggested that a vaccine will instantly eliminate the virus either, that's not what a vaccine does.

    You're right, Ben is much better placed to discuss this than I am and if he can correct me then great, but as far as I know, the virus is pretty stable, whereas influenza tends to mutate very quickly, which is why we need a frequent flu vaccine. If Covid did mutate, it would probably take a fair few mutations before it became a problem for vaccines (though that depends on how it mutates and which, if any, spike is affected - again, Ben will probably explain better or more correctly than me).
     
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    If nothing else, the plethora of threads like this one on various social media sites, shows that those tasked with getting the information out, are clearly not making a very good job of it, and the lack of clear information is generating doubts and non-compliance, either deliberate or through ignorance.
     
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    youve ignored the main point of my post... we’ve had a flu vaccine for nearly 50 years - has that fixed the flu problem? Oh & every year it gets updated to reflect new strains - another word for strains is mutations. It’s exactly the same

    No. About 40,000 people die every year from the flu.

    why are people expecting a miracle from this vaccine??
     
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    I don't know, it's not a magic bullet that makes the virus go away, you can have the vaccine and still catch the virus. I guess people are sick of this. After hundreds of years of non-covid 19 style measures, now we're having to do something different this year and people don't like it. So maybe the word "vaccine" to them is a synonym for "cure". I really hope that's not the government's attitude, it certainly sounds that way in the US at the minute.

    I caught the arse end of a phone call to the Burnsy show the other day; the caller from Grimsby was evacuated during the war and had to miss school and he said he couldn't understand why the restrictions aren't more severe. His point was that young people had time on their side to recover, whereas the elderly don't, so the older generations should be better considered when thinking about measures taken. When asked by DB if he caught up from missing school, he said "of course we did, we were kids".
     
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    Lets be honest.... the effects of Covid 19 may be be more severe...

    However... everything else is the same as the rest of Covid mechanisms including the method of transmission. Do you remember the last big flu spike ... it killed c60,000 wayyyyy back in 2018.
    Only difference it wasn’t hyped 432AA170-B13E-4792-83AA-A23EEA46E9F5.jpeg
     
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    That's true, but Covid doesn't replace flu, those deaths will still be happening as well. Which is why it's all the more important that we get our **** together and stop this getting out of hand.
     
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    you do realise that 60000 was the total number of deaths for everything that month ? ... not just the flu , as you have been told before , if your going to report something , report the actual facts ..

    link to the full article for you to actually read it all

    Killer flu outbreak is to blame for a spike in deaths | Daily Mail Online
     
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    But you can only die once.....regardless of what’s on the death certificate
     
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    Which highlights my point about the DM and sensationalist content. The way they worded that was deliberately misleading. There'll be a lot of people who didn't realise that it was 60,000 odd deaths in total and they're banking on it being that way.
     
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    Thanks.... yes I am aware. Thanks for the contribution I wasn’t claiming 60,000 people died in a month of the flu......
     
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    Obviously. But people dying from Covid doesn't stop people dying from cancer, heart disease et al. It's a new cause of death to add to the numbers.
     
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