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It's virtually impossible to quantify what fuel efficiency savings have come from F1 but it's fair to say that the technology used in F1 does go into road car design and contributes to fuel efficiency savings - I don't think you can deny that. Now the stats ( a bit of *** packet maths here)
In 2017 there were 269bn litres of fuel used in road cars the world over.
THere are 2.4 kg of co2 emissions per litre, so 645bn kg of emissions the world over.
The average new car gets around 40 to 50 mpg. So a saving of 1mpg would be 2%, or 13bn kg of carbon (6bn lbs).
Your post on p6 estimates that F1 produces 147m lbs of carbon a year (if I'm interpreting you correctly).
Therefore the saving associated with adding 1 mpg to the average road car would cancel out F1 emissions for 41 years (6bn divided by 147m), or since before Nelson piquet had won a championship.

https://www.travelstatsman.com/04032019/269-billion-litres-of-jet-fuel-was-burned-in-2017
https://www.carbonindependent.org/17.html

Any scientists on here care to explain in simple terms how 1 litre of anything ( 1 litre of most liquids is about 1 kg ) can produce 2.4 kgs of gas?
 
Any scientists on here care to explain in simple terms how 1 litre of anything ( 1 litre of most liquids is about 1 kg ) can produce 2.4 kgs of gas?

I think they're talking of the emissions per litre used, which would include the air added to the process.
 
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I think they're talking of the emissions per litre used, which would include the air added to the process.
Happy to defer to you on this, I’m no scientist. But it’s quoted from the 2nd link in post 170, again I cannot say how accurate this is. Either way it suggests that F1 is massively carbon neutral. I get that F1 is looking to go ‘carbon neutral’ in 2030, but this seems to be direct carbon footprint, not indirect as I have described in post 170.
 
Any scientists on here care to explain in simple terms how 1 litre of anything ( 1 litre of most liquids is about 1 kg ) can produce 2.4 kgs of gas?

Get your head around these :emoticon-0100-smile Complete combustion of hydrocarbons... examples...

https://socratic.org/questions/what-is-the-chemical-equation-for-the-combustion-of-c-3h-6

https://socratic.org/questions/how-...of-grams-of-each-substance-used-or-produced-w

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news...et,be counterbalanced by carbon sequestration.
 
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Happy to defer to you on this, I’m no scientist. But it’s quoted from the 2nd link in post 170, again I cannot say how accurate this is. Either way it suggests that F1 is massively carbon neutral. I get that F1 is looking to go ‘carbon neutral’ in 2030, but this seems to be direct carbon footprint, not indirect as I have described in post 170.

It's only looking at direct emissions, and seems to take no account of the construction, which being carbon fibre would be significant, and the impact of the track build, spectators, testing etc would be greater than the numbers quote by orders of magnitude.

Interestingly, a better argument could be that the announcement that petrol is to be phased out has actually added to the carbon footprint, as research into improvements is now no longer viable.
 
I think they're talking of the emissions per litre used, which would include the air added to the process.

Ah now I see, so if you have 1 litre of piss, nasty horrible stuff and throw it into an Olympic sized swimming pool you now have about 2.5 million litres of nasty horrible pissy water.

Adds a certain gravitas to the story.
 
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Any scientists on here care to explain in simple terms how 1 litre of anything ( 1 litre of most liquids is about 1 kg ) can produce 2.4 kgs of gas?
I am quite thick so I might get this wrong, sorry if that is the case.
In order to convert fuel into energy you have to add oxygen. The gas produced is two units of carbon to one unit of oxygen. All gas weighs something. Adding the oxygen to the carbon makes it weigh more.
There are always the same amount of atoms on the earth. Just in different combinations., so when you burn something you simply release the atoms from one combination into another, some combinations weigh more than others.
 
I suppose he could have earned an award for bringing unity to the nation in these troubled times, because looking around a variety of forums and social media sites, and the very strong consensus is that he's a total bell end.
 
The irony of 90,000 visitors to COP26, many of whom will have taken flights to get there, is a much bigger indignity that an F1 season of travel (minus the fans of course). Estimate 70 people per team x 10 teams x 20 races = 14,000 flights in 1 year plus pre-season practice so round it up to 20,000. As said above F1 technology also ends up benefiting production car technologies - aerodynamics, engine efficiency, telemetry, KERS etc.
 
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