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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    He did it on St George's Day too. I'd expect there to be a constant trickle of patriotic stories linked to George's, rememberance, jubilee days etc etc. A big tide to turn as you say.
     
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    Could well be linked to the fact that they are on the brink of having to choose between making major concessions to the EU or no deal. Whatever one thinks of Brexit and how they've handled it, that's bound to cause rifts.
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

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    I honestly think if there's a major concession to the EU - beyond a compromise on fishing whereby the British get the lion's share and the French et al are given reasonable, reduced rights - Boris will be toast. He won't be able to withstand the pressure coming from the ERG or the evacuation of voters to UKIP or a Farage creation
     
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  4. Stroller

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  5. Star of David Bardsley

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    Surely this isn’t real.

     
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    Really? To borrow a phrase "4 more years". Boris is not averse to bribing the electorate and has already promised billions for everybody even before Covid. Now all he has to do is keep those promises especially to his new friends in the North. **** the economy. I'm sure we will see increasingly that Rishi Sunak is cast as the man responsible for the economic hard times which lie ahead. Boris will only have been following the 'expert' advice.
     
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    Actually, I don't think it would get to the electorate. If Boris sells out Brexit by doing one of his infamous U turns, his own party will turn against him, and he'll find himself sitting on the back benches with Theresa. He must realise that, for his own personal ambitions, No deal is better than a bad deal
     
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    **** his personal ambitions, he should do what's best for the country and agree a deal. He's toast anyway.
     
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    86.7 million for a council house

    A Labour council has just filed for bankruptcy with £1.5 billion of debt. How it reached that debt is absolutely insane. In one example, the council funded £260 million towards its own social housing company. It built three homes. £86.7 million per home.
     
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    Now would be a great time to start but if the good of the country was the main driver for their decisions the whole thing would have been binned years ago. I expect some **** deal will be signed, we’ll be told it’s amazing, sales of tiny Union Jacks will spike and he’ll resign over his health a hero in the Spring taking all the **** consequences of Brexit with him.
     
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    If only there was something in his past that could have given us a clue.
     
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    I think he'll hold his nerve on this one. The French can jump up and down about loss of fishing but No Deal means no access whatsoever to the UK waters for the fisherman on the north coast of France. And Germany will put a lot of pressure on France because No Deal will damage its important export market to the UK.
     
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    It's Croydon Council and they're blaming Covid. Presumably it's seeped into the brains of all the Labour councillors
     
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    I think the EU will hand Johnson a face-saving 'victory' on fishing (they can compensate the French fishermen if necessary) in return for his agreeing to the LPF.

    Fishing is such a tiny consideration for both sides in the scheme of things.
     
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    Actually, I don't agree. Fishing is massive for the fishermen of Brittany and Normandy. It's more than money, it's a way of life, like mining was to northern English towns in the 1980's. The fishing families are looking to Macron to protect their interests but his leverage is limited.

    There's room for compromise for fishing, but the French, Dutch etc are going to have to acclimatise to taking considerably less.

    LPF may be more difficult if the EU hold out.
     
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    Irish MP Calls for Hard, Army Patrolled, Northern Irish Border



    Irish politician Peter Fitzpatrick today called for the Irish Army to patrol the Northern Irish internal border to stop cars driving south in an effort to combat Coronavirus, which is far more rife in the North than in the South. The Teachtaí Dála (TD) told the Irish parliament that cross-border travel is “being abused” and that “the number of northern registered cars you see is unreal”. He added “I don’t like it”…

    “I think it’s about time that we started using the army. You see what’s happening in Dundalk we have a barracks in Dundalk where we have 450 soldiers there. Why not deploy them along the border area?”

    Leo Varadkar responded by dismissing the suggestion, saying says the Irish “5 kilometre rule” is best enforced by gardaí (police) “and not by military means” in the border counties. Bit rich of the Irish Parliament to talk about protecting the Good Friday Agreement one day then discuss patrolling the border the next…
     
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    It would be wonderful if they had any brains. The council owned building company 'Brick by Brick', locally known as 'Prick by Prick' are an absolute shambles, 3 housing properties built in 4 years. One of their other projects was the new South Norwood Library down the road from me just completed 18 months late and now mothballed and unlikely to open.

    The council bought a hotel for £30 million and it is now closed, a catalogue of unbelievable spending gaffes leaving them £1.5 billion in debt. The CE got a £440k payoff when she 'resigned' in July. The incredible thing is Labour will probably get re-elected as the opposition parties split the vote. All this and we're riddled with LTN planters all over the place. You couldn't make it up...
     
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