tbh i was amazed he went to Sheff Utd as the CF really is there purely to occupy the CB's while the goal threat , such as it is , comes from MF runners . He'll probably get less passes than Watkins gets goals for Villa .
So here we are on monday the 9th. Ole still at the wheel. the sheer incompetence of the Manchester united board is staggering. long may it continue.
Football Association chairman Greg Clarke was forced to apologise after using the word “coloured” in an answer he gave to MPs at a Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) committee hearing on Tuesday, report Matt Slater and Luke Brown. Clarke was answering a question about the importance of inclusion and the difficulty of homosexual players in the men’s game coming out because of social media backlash. UPDATE: Confirmed: Greg Clarke quits as FA chairman.
Clarke unfortunately comes from a generation where so called casual racism and sexism was common place. A generation that had calling black people “chalkie” was meant as a joke. And there were no women but “girls”. And stereotyping was an everyday occurrence: the Chinese were labelled as “ chinky takeaway” owners, Indian people were curry restaurant owners and so on. Anyone in that time raising an objection would be seen as a troublemaker or having a chip on both shoulders. He didn’t (couldn’t) move with the times and had to go. He probably isn’t a hardcore racist or sexist. Language is important.
Having read his explanation it seems a bit harsh. I cant remember the details but something about seminars in the USA where people of colour was the acceptable way at the time to refer to black people. Its a funny thing but I do feel like they change the reference fairly regularly.
Yes, im assuming that twitter has spoken though. The outraged tapping away at their keyboards while not actually doing anything. Sad times that a man can loose his career because a mistaken word.
Massive over reaction to a simple mistake, to many people willing to jump up and down without taking the time to examine the context. He said a word I dont like wah wah wah
I have been pulled by the "woke" crowd on here for asking why it's cool to say person of colour but racist to say coloured person. It was a genuine question brought about by a similar situation/discussion on another thread, certain people got all "if you can't see the difference then there is no hope for you" Never actually got an answer to my question though. Sometimes i think people just want to be current and jump on the bandwagon but don't really know why.
As I said he was just part of that generation which didn’t take casual racism seriously. Like laughing at the casual racist stereotype jokes of the comedians of that time. The point and the reason I suspect he resigned was that what he said was NOT a mistake. And the irony is that he probably doesn’t realise what he did would offend people. The older generations have a different approach to language and attitude to the younger ones.
Maybe I need educating and maybe if there are any black people on here I hope they’d feel comfortable enough to say and could educate if needed. But in America and I thought in the UK I’m pretty sure they use the term POC so is that different or wrong? I must admit I don’t actually know. As I say maybe I’m naive as a white guy who admittedly doesn’t have many friends of minority background so very happy to be told I’m wrong and explain to me
I always find these type of topics awkward because we don't know anything about each other on here. Believe it or not, I don't actually like upsetting folks
Of course this is sensitive and very difficult to explain. What I find unacceptable sometimes is people’s inability to accept that some people could be offended by something they find innocuous themselves. I may not find a word or phrase offensive to me BUT I readily accept that this same phrase could be hugely offensive to a large number of people of a different race. The right description of the non white racial groups could be complicated. The best description Clarke could have used would have been: Non white players. In political circles, all non whites are labelled as black whether they are from Africa or Asia. Then one could be more specific and call players with an Afro Caribbean background black and those from Asia, brown etc. Calling people coloured may be offensive because these terms were associated with segregation in Apartheid South Africa and in Southern states of the US a few decades ago.
This is very good. Terms change, sometimes very quickly. I'm never too sure who decides what the current politically correct term is, but suddenly everyone is expected to know and God forbid you use something untoward. You suddenly need educate yourself, well unfortunately I've got a a job and a family to think about before I'm arsed about the latest correct terminology to use. Its not generational its simply doesn't enter into most peoples lives on a regular basis. This goes for everything racism, sexism etc Suddenly know harm meant isn't enough. Sorry I didnt realise, isn't good enough, you must be woke!
It wasn't a few decades ago that people of colour was the socially acceptable term. Its why he made his slip, he'd been to the USA and attended a seminar and thats what they told him was accepted. People realise and accept that other people can be offended, but the offence is sometimes taken by far to far. What happened to you can't say that, sorry lad didn't realise my fault, ok no problem. Now its jump up and down, pissing and moaning for the slightest of reason. People get bored of it, it yet again dilutes the whole argument. It does know good.
Grammatically there is no difference, and I've no idea how this distinction has come about. The noun is "person" - "coloured" and "of colour" are modifiers and their position before or after the noun doesn't affect it. A friend of mine who works in an industry where they are careful about language like this says that she was told that putting the modifier before the noun emphasises colour more than person, but grammatically this is untrue. I really don't want to offend anyone who is sensitive to this issue, but in purely syntactical terms, person of colour makes no sense, tbh. You wouldn't say "person of tall" or ball of red". The only time this type of sentence construction is used is in poetical terms - "hair of gold", or whatever. I expect to get a bollocking over this, but imo it's not wrong to observe someone's characteristics, only to treat them unfairly because of them. I don't see how creating a linguistic minefield actually helps the situation at all. I hovered over the post reply key on this, because I don't want to get into an argument over it, but I do think I need to make the point.
