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Match Day Thread Vs Man City (A)

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  1. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    With us only having two CMs, the wide players were required to work hard. Not saying Salah doesn't, but Jota (and Mane) work harder.
     
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  2. organic red

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    Scan today
     
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  3. Solid Air 2

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    didn't all of them bar VVD have spells out last season didn't they .
     
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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    First 25 mins we were scintillating. Should have finished it off then <ok>.
     
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    yeah get the 2nd and then just pick them off on the break .
     
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  6. Zanjinho

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    In the opening eight games?
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    we made a huge error midweek in our subs.

    We waited to 65min to take off henderson, jota and robertson. Jota already got a knock. it was already 5-0

    we waited to 82 mins to take off taa and wijnaldum.

    this left mane and salah on for 90. Now not everyone can take a rest so there is a case there that we targeted the full backs etc.


    Lets look what the weekend then tells us.

    a) we dominated the chances not possession for 35mins. We deliberately set up to deny city good space and left the ball to their cbs. we set up to cut rodri off and negate KDB.

    b) henderson and wijnaldum failed in thier discipline once in the first half. Henderson ran off up the park vacating midfield pressing and wijnaldum ran past KDB to close down wide as mane didn't bother getting back in. this one moment created the space KDB never got again in the game. right in the middle in front of goal. the reality is for the rest of the game they were pretty limited in their options.

    c) we improved possession second half but lost all ability to close down as the team faded and faded badly. We subbed firmino who should be the fresher of the 4 and left the others on. By the end all 3 were utterly gone. We were basically unable to string 2 passes together from 70mins onwards but refused to make a 3rd sub for fresh legs once taa went off. in short we used up mane especially on defensive duty.

    theres a clear case to say that mane and salah should have had the feet up much earlier in italy with city in mind but we would be robbing one area to boost another given the midfield issues we have.



    In the end we are missing 3 players. The CB is no issue. (now matip is back) but taking out fabinho and thiago imo means that klopp feels the 4 forwards is the best way to go right now. the issue is the space this greats around the midfield two that two forwards have the close down. long term this 4 forwards stuff is only good for teams who want to defend only. We need to get the 3 back in midfield.
     
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    Stolen....

    Liverpool players who have sustained injuries this season:

    Alisson
    Van Dijk
    Matip
    Gomez
    Fabinho
    Tsimikas
    Thiago
    Keita
    Henderson
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Mane
    Shaqiri
    Alexander-Arnold

    13 injuries, 3rd in the league. Mentality Giants.
     
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  9. Solid Air 2

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    actually at least 2 of them iirc and probably Matip and Ox just by the law of averages <laugh>
     
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    Roy Keane on how Sadio Mane won a penalty against Kyle Walker:

    "Because he's up against an idiot. People tell me he's been playing well but I don't see it. He's a car crash."

    <laugh>
     
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  11. O'l Gravy Leg.

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    Pulls no punches Roy.

    Only time I ever felt uneasy watching a post match show was recently when Klopp misunderstood what Keane was saying about "sloppy" and started going at Keane

    Then Keane leans out to be more in view of the studio TV screen klopp was on, to reply, as if Klopp was looking out from the TV, rather than Keane just talking into his mic <laugh> <laugh>
     
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    There are one or two in most games, tbh. Something he needs to work on.
     
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    Matip and Gomez are both guilty of this. It's almost like they're passing it out without looking expecting one if the CMs to be in ther hold on ther edge of the box.
     
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  14. Bumps

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    I love her
    She is the perfect woman lol
     
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    Don’t you start (meant nicely )
    We had loads of injuries last year the only difference is VVD and even he got injured in Dec as we were at the WCC with Hendo at the back

    Allison was out twice and one of them I am convinced cost us a crack at the CL :(

    edit
    I see you meant in the first 8 games
    In which case you are right
    Man - I am in fire today lmao
     
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    I think he was just trying to get out of the way.
     
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  17. O'l Gravy Leg.

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    Moved on from that post Red

    Natural movement, and unintentional but to VAR fools, they only see ball to arm motion

    Refs are not players, and make such mistakes accordingly.
    Need more ex player refs
     
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    Yeah, meant we've had a lot for this point in the season. Not convinced it's down to the demands of the season, certainly not in VVD and Thiago cases.
     
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    Villa are a complete anomaly this season so far, that wasn't bad luck that hammered us 7 2
    Normally that's a win.

    Villa last season would have been put to the sword.
    Everton just got extremely lucky and at the same time took out VVD

    Neither is really down to us being that much lower in quality than last season, without the Everton thing and the Villa anomaly, we'd have the exact same points only having dropped 2 at City

    That's a good sign mate
     
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  20. organic red

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    We were 1-0 down until the 87th minute at Villa Park last season
     
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