Special containment areas for the elderly, infirm, vulnerable, those with mental health issues, etc, would certainly help ... ... not the final solution but a step in the right direction.
If these kids and the idiots Had adhered to the rules in the first place then they would have been a less chance of a second lock down You don’t see many pensioners going to raves having illegal parties Protesting hanging around in groups Not keeping social distancing I’ve read on these forums people saying “ im going out with may mates on the piss **** Boris” I personally I’m unable to meet up with my mate and his wife Because I adhere to the rules We have hardly seen our family for months because we adhere to the rules These rules were in place to try and prevent this second lockdown But realy you just have to look around you to see who has not adhered to the Rules AND ALL OAP DONT ADHEAR TO THE RULES
It's not about the rules being broken I'm afraid. It's about the rules not being fit for purpose. Travel continued too long. A few dickheads breaking the rules is a drop in the ocean. People broke the rules here. But the virus has near enough been eradicated. It's the mainstream and not the counter culture that determines how this works.
The issue is where they send them. Personally I'm not so sure that everyone who is vulnerable should be carted off to some sort of barracks. That's pretty much what would have to happen though since there's lots of multi generational households, too many to put up elsewhere. Then there's the fact that these people generally need a lot of health care. We can do what we can in terms of protection, but with that many people coming and going its highly likely that an infection could break out in one of these barracks which would pretty much be a death sentence similar to what we saw in care homes. And even doing that, and letting the virus rip through the rest, would lead to leads of people who either don't know they're vulnerable or who simply get unlucky being killed in the general population. I'm not sure what the answer is, and I know we can't let this continue forever or else the economy will be completely ****ed and suicide rates will be through the roof, but I believe a lot of people have looked into this idea of quarantining the vulnerable and have worked out that it would be a very poor move. One thing that would help is all university courses that can be delivered online doing so. Taking away that area of spread would probably allow pubs and gyms to stay open. Secondary education is more difficult because we don't want to risk kids getting left behind, but if there's a way of delivering some of that online then do it as well. For me we're closing the bits that don't have a massive impact on spread , whilst keeping open the things that do. They're trying to keep open vital things, which I completely get, but I don't see how this strategy is going to work, we'll end up in the same situation next month.
Well islands have a pretty incredible luxury of being able to shut it out should they choose to. New Zealand have done it, Australia have done it. It's well within Britain's ability to do it if they do it properly.
It appears that the financial hub of the City of London was more important. Sadly, it's been proved that all of these endless business flights aren't really necessary. I've been on endless business trips, with various clients, and they're generally a few days away on the lash in a different country. Very little is achieved that couldn't be done with a simple Skype call. With modern technology people can easily communicate as they've now been forced to do. We had 3 BBC TV producers here, in the summer, and they said they'll now do things differently. They'll stop these ridiculous situations whereby reporters are sent across the country, with a full crew, to interview a government minister who spends 15 minutes totally avoiding answering the questions and just runs the clock down. Who cares if the picture quality isn't perfect, they can just as easily disrespect the public from their library at home, by waffling on until time runs out.
The world has become far too small and far too connected. To the point where travel is on a whim and utterly superfluous
Bonko did a Trump at the first wave of the virus and ignored it. Then like his mate Cummings panicked and haf a lockdown late. Was not prepared no PPE etc. This time Sunak, has told him it was too expensive to have a lockdown and we are now to enter one late again. Should have had a 2 week one earlier and said half-term then also. Bonko just does what the last person to speak to him says, until the medics panicked him showing the siht storm coming
Our stag nights, in the past, we're absolutely brilliant and I have some incredible memories ... ... they lasted one night and we never went further than a cheap taxi ride back home. These days people fly to 3 or 4 places they never see to spend their time in a hotel or going down 'the strip'.
Smug. Almost all the travel inward at the start of this was holidaymakers returning from europe. Particularly Spain and Italy, the hotspots at the time. I can imagine tbe BBC's horror if they had not been allowed to return. But this , despite what hysterical and lazy journalists say, is no more the fault of this government than it is in France of theirs, or anywhere else. It is a virus almost certainly originating in China, who kept quiet while buying PPE from Australia and the EU, knowing these and other places would need it. I never hear China criticised, even though they have serious form for this type of thing. Whatever any government does is wrong, and whatever it doesn't do is right. Especially here , the US and anywhere where the main broadcasters have a beef with the party in power.
The government were allowing our holidaymakers to fly to Spain and Italy even after it was announced they were being ravaged by the virus. I don't see how anyone but the government can be blamed ... ... certainly not those reporting facts which is their job.
Emma Barnett ( BBC five live ) asked Kier this morning if he thought they were doing right thing with the lock down, he says couldn’t care less Emma wether they are right or not I’m still collecting £300 + a day for doing bugger all the peasants can live on a couple of grand a month ha ha ha you should try it Emma I’m on full pay honestly full pay for doing f uck all anyway can’t stop off to our bar for a couple with Dominick.
Yep they were allowing holes for a short time, but again, can you imagine the outcry if they had stopped them? Whatever they do, bad things will happen. Whatever they don't , do bad things will happen. As for the" news" coverage here, it has went beyond parody for the most part, including one evening when a shrieking woman journalist demanded to know in late April, when this "would be all over" . The hapless bloke who took the question was more patient than I would have been. Lockdown, no lockdown, a virus will reach almost everyone sooner or later, probably sooner. Most will be okay, a few of us will die or suffer badly. I'm pleased it's not ne making these decisions.
I couldn't care less mate. If people are so stupid they can knowingly fly into a virus hit country I'm not bothered about upsetting them. Instead we'll end up with 100,000 dead, the economy in tatters and people's lives ruined. If some people couldn't get down to Malaga I think I could live with that.
Agreed. But the country holds a lot of precious and entitled people who want things their way, and they want it now. Anyway, lockdowns only delay things. We'll see, but the world seems to have gone mad to me, no perspective at all being utilised anywhere.
Your fookin joking right ? Ozz and NZ haven't got blow up boat loads of illegal fookers streaming into their islands over thousands of miles of shark infested waters like we have over the channel
We're allowing the French government to take the piss... Local French people are selling boats to traffickers, saying they've been stolen and claiming the insurance. I have a mate in Dover customs who says that they've stopped people taking tired old boats to Calais but are powerless to seize them. He also reckons the boats that arrive in the UK appear for sale at auctions ffs. The French set up 'transit camps' close to the coastline to tempt illegals to get to the UK. No idea why we're just sitting back and doing nothing.
