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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by dennisboothstash, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    The biggest disgrace was panicmongers like Prof Ferguson predicting hundreds of thousands popping their clogs. The media merely repeated what supposed experts were saying. Ferguson told us how we should all stop at home, isolate, don't mix etc...Then was caught sneaking out to see his married mistress. Though he didn't get the flak some others did.
     
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    Or not...
     
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    And his evidence, along with others from so called experts was discredited by his peers, yet much of it is still used to defend the measures.
     
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    Hence the need for peer review of science publications
     
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    It used to be the norm, but there now seems to be a desire to deplatform views that challenge the mainstream narrative. A lot of the stuff for climate change falls into that category, and it fuels conspiracy theorists and discredits science. Challenging mainstream views is a sure fired way for scientists to have their funding cut and need to find fresh employment.

    That is not a healthy situation, as skepticism should not be a pejorative word, it's one of the fundamental tools of scientific advancement.
     
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    Very true
     
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    I am sceptical about American English spellings of words.
     
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    Guilty as charged. :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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    As the great Clive James said, a sceptic finds Dallas absurd, a cynic thinks that others won't.
     
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    Science should be measurable and repeatable, if its not, its not science.
     
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    Science, any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation. In general, a science involves a pursuit of knowledge covering general truths or the operations of fundamental laws.

    We were just discussing that very thing down the pub the other night.
     
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    Yep
     
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    It just shows you the marked difference in statistics and science being applied per nation.

    For what it's worth I think Jimmy Krankie up here has totally lost the plot and has more of less condemned the publicans to a slow and painful death.They spent so much money out of their own pockets to get this right after lockdown then lo and behold,she pulled the plug on their efforts again....I truly despair!!!

    I like a pint on my days off and I'm prepared to sit outside to achieve that,instead of that I have to sit around the house...
     
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    Was gonna pop down and watch Hornsea Town v Hedon Rangers tomorrow.

    I'd already resigned myself to the fact that I wouldn't be able to go in for a pint afterwards, however the latest email from ERYC states
    • People should not attend amateur or professional sporting events as spectators.
    So that's that option out of the window it seems
     
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    Tell them you're a trainee football scout, so you're 'working' not 'spectating'. <ok>
     
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    Re any vaccine, anytime soon. Just how the hell do they think they're going to administer it. Over 65's have all on to get a seasonal flu jab and at the Moment, the suite where this is done has to sanitised after every client. The only way they could administer on mass IMO, is to use the electoral role and send out the vaccine on sugar lumps ... and do the schools on mass the same way..
     
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    Maybe based on drink related health issues in Scotland, this was too good a chance for her to miss...
     
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    In the UK, the ratio of positive cases to hospitalisation numbers is much better than it was earlier in the year, although the latter is still climbing rather worryingly.

    We can't stop this thing, so the basic aim should be to manage the numbers so that hospitals don't get overwhelmed, because people dying in corridors in hospitals isn't what anyone needs. Which means cutting down the numbers of interactions people have with each other. What the government is trying to do is manage it on a population level, by setting a target how many interactions are ok, then and decide which interactions must still happen (schools, buying food etc) and then stopping others (footie and gigs impacting me the most) to keep the total to the target. Which then leads to the situations when people look at their own personal risk and ask why they can meet their mates in the pub garden but not their house and they think it's all bollocks.

    [wording this carefully] In my opinion, a better job could be done by trying to explain population risk versus personal risk to everyone, and say that while that might mean some rules may not feel logical, there is a bigger picture going on so please comply whoever possible. Some old Tomorrow's World type demos with ping-pong balls on mouse traps kind of thing to show how the bigger the R number, the bigger the spread.
     
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