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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. The Professor

    The Professor Well-Known Member

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    So are you now thinking / or anyone else to understand that FFP are maybe not involved at all other than the loan been cleared obviously

    or is there a possibility they either join with the new name emerged or possible leave loan or take an equivalent stake to the loan.

    understand it sounds like ITK if has dried a little for all with regard to finer detail

    i pray whoever it is has a proper plan for us....which does not include solely throwing money at it, we need putting into shape top to bottow with a plan for the academy to start producing.....and when it does get some game tine out of these kids to max a sale
     
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  2. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    I hate them heavy numb buggers don’t mind the lass though <laugh>
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    All that's possible but I know very little apart from FPP, mainly Fuhrman, wants a resolution.

    I'm guessing that it's either that they want control or their money back.

    The only other thing I've been told is that Donald is out.

    That's all I can say.
     
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  4. Nozs’ Hat

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    Either way it’s sounding positive.

    Interesting that an Eric Bouchard and Joey Saputo are both directors of Boscus Canada Inc. So those names have a link, no idea if there is anything in it...
     
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  5. KJNMackem

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    And that's the most important thing.
     
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  6. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    It is cos of his share ownership, though I’d also love Methven out. He represents everything I can’t stand about society, big business and politics.
     
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  7. 6inarow

    6inarow Well-Known Member

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    Good Piece on ALS, spot on

    PARKINSON OUT, DONALD OUT, EVERYONE OUT

    On the 13th October last year I was asked to write an article about Phil Parkinson becoming our new manager. I said at the time that I felt there were better choices available and that the appointment was a gamble.

    Looking back at that article now I remember hoping I was wrong and that the gamble would pay off. Sadly, the evidence is the opposite. Apparently I shouldn’t be negative after two bad games. Two? We drew against Bristol Rovers because we didn’t have the firepower to score against a poor bottom half team (though nearly snatched a winner when Power smashed one against the bar in the last couple of minutes). A month and a half on and exactly the same has happened again. Yes, we stopped teams scoring but so did Accrington.

    Against Peterborough we were lucky to get off the pitch 1-0, against Swindon we were very lucky not to concede a penalty just after half time which would have pulled it to 1-1. Under Jack Ross the criticism was that we got a goal and tried to hold on to it, sat deeper and then drew too many games. What has changed? Nothing. Actually, if anything, it’s getting worse.

    Parkinson has managed Sunderland 41 times and has a win percentage of 41%, Ross had a win percentage of 51%. Interestingly, that is the second best win percentage of any club Parkinson has managed beaten only by his opening years at Colchester. Ross’ 51% is his worst spell in professional football.

    Maybe that’s why Parkinson was so positive about last night’s performance. Perhaps in his world we should be happy that we nearly passed to each other and that we had two or three shots on target in a half where we looked the better side. Yes, we looked a better side against a team who have 18 year old loanees playing their first professional games and players signed from Chorley starting for them but we didn’t look like a side who wanted to compete as much as them or knew their jobs as well as they did. I for one don’t want to live in Parkinson’s mediocre isn’t bad world.

    The manager’s post match interview made sense if you were trying to protect a young inexperienced team, trying to accentuate the positive (or lie about there being a positive). Our squad includes experienced players, players who’ve played top flight and international football. They don’t need bluffing by a manager out of his depth, they need honesty and strategy. The likes of Wright, Willis, Leadbitter, Graham are players who’ve enough behind them to know what is right and what is wrong. And last night, our attacking potential all season, our tactics, our team selections are very definitely wrong.

    The biggest danger for our club was always that we started to behave like a League One club, started to accept that an away point was OK and that we shouldn’t expect too much. It seems that, internally, the club has started to behave in that way. If something isn’t done soon we’ll become a club hoping for a successful year in the Papa John Cup and maybe a playoff spot.

    I would say, as I have for a year, that Parkinson isn’t the right man for the job but the need to replace him is on a long list of jobs I’d like to see filled in the club, from chairman to academy director to first team manager to CEO. I fear that, until new owners take over, owners interested in taking the club forwards rather than owners keen to tell their friends they own a football club and employing their Poundland friends, any new manager would be walking into a burning building. The club needs rebuilding from the bottom to the top and everyone from CEO to the first team manager needs to be honest about that when speaking publicly and putting their own hands up and admitting it’s not good enough, anything short of that and the ever decreasing circle of league one stability becomes closer to our new reality.

     
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  8. Dorset

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    The one I found on Google has a personal wealth of $2.3 billion. That's enough for me!
     
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  9. 6inarow

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  10. Julio

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    This feels more like it. If its as close as 2 weeks away from being completed you really would expect names to start leaking out as to who it is
     
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  11. 6inarow

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    I find it very coincidental that the date (10th November) that @Wheatsheaf has been given as significant concerning a takeover in relation to FPP's loan. If you look at the loan given to Madrox last year it was created on the 8th Nov and delivered on the 12th Nov. To me this says 2 things, that loan will be turned into share value on or around 1 years maturity or has got to be paid back, I might be just over thinking but I would say we will definitely see something change on or around the 10th Novemeber

    https://find-and-update.company-inf.../11341675/charges/cNfNmJNi_-NanI6XtY8MSsGRa_I
     
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  12. Wheatsheaf

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    I'll give you another update tonight
     
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  13. OldArgus

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    A very accurate, though sad, assessment of our current circumstances and hopefully any prospective owners will be aware of just how bad our situation has become.
    The club needs a complete shake up from top to bottom in order to achieve any sort of success but unfortunately that will not happen overnight and that's my concern.
    Will the fans accept owners with a genuine long term plan to develop the club or will they demand overnight success?
    Time will tell.
     
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  14. 6inarow

    6inarow Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff mate
     
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  15. major92

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    Any chance the prospective new owners are undergoing the EFL fit and proper test currently ?
     
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  16. 6inarow

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    I would have no problem with a long term plan if/when we get back up to the championship but we need immediate action now to get out of this f*king league we are in.....the novelty has completely worn off now
     
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  17. 6inarow

    6inarow Well-Known Member

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    First post.....have you done your initiation?
     
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  18. Nozs’ Hat

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    Yeah, I agree. I think we may need to just chuck some money at the situation now to hopefully progress out of League 1 this season and then start the full longer term planning and building over the summer with maybe a 3-5 year plan to return to the Premier League.
     
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  19. Julio

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    How loaded are the two blokes who have been mentioned?
     
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  20. 6inarow

    6inarow Well-Known Member

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    From day one we should have chucked any money at Josh Maja and whoever else and could have easily getting out of this league at the first attempt, Unfortunately we have Stewart Donald in charge
     
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