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Was Ashley right to sack Hughton?

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  1. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    I agree tbh but as you say got to appreciate what he is doing atm.
     
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  2. holystone

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    Can someone tell me why he was sacked???????????
     
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  3. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    Mike Ashley could but he won't as he is a ****ing fat ****!
     
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  4. beardface

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    Really? I dont remember this.

    This. <ok>
     
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  5. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I think it was two fold but I'm only guessing and we'll never really know. 1. Money - He was the cheapest manager in the PL. But Hughton (and his agent) had got themselves into a pretty strong negotiating position. I would think he wanted a significant pay jump to reflect his role and success in it. I can't remember for sure but was he not on the same wage he was a assistant or something? Pardew is the lowest paid manager in the PL if certain newspapers are to be believed. 2. I'd imagine he had become too close to players that the board wanted to get rid of. He was probably seen as a barrier to their plans.

    Who knows it certainly could not have been result based could it!
     
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  6. Arfa's Left Foot

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    Probably was right to sack him.
     
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  7. Hugh Briss

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    And why is that?
     
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  8. Arfa's Left Foot

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    Our results weren't as good as they seemed. I remember saying at the time we had had a lot of bad results clouded by a couple of brilliant ones. Hughton as a manager was decent but we were going nowhere. Tactically he was so limited it was unreal. Kinnear could have won the Championship with our side.
     
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  9. Hugh Briss

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    We'd just lost 3-1 to WBA so that was a **** result - we were 11th in the PL following promotion from the CCC which we won as Champions.
    All this from a manager who had very little experience and was on a steep learning curve.

    It was a total ****ing disgrace to sack him and I think your comment about Joe Kinnear suggests you're on the wind-up.
     
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  10. I'm not looking back now. Hughton did a fantastic job and didn't deserve to be sacked, but i don't care about that anymore, I'm only looking forward.
     
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  11. Cal.

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    No he wasn't right to, but luckily it has worked out well for us.
     
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  12. Hugh Briss

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    Good for you. If you're not interested in debating the Hughton sacking it seems pointless to comment at all.
     
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  13. Arfa's Left Foot

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    Shush. Prick.

    Are you telling me our squad was not significantly better than any of the others in the Championship? Kinnear was the first name that came to mind, point was anybody could have won that league with that team at your disposal.

    That West Brom result was awful, the 5-1 to Bolton a couple of weeks earlier, goalless draw at home to Fulham, loss at home to Blackburn, draw at home to Wigan, loss at home to Stoke, loss at home to Blackpool and drawing away to Wolves. All games we should have done better in. It's not like it came after a rare freak loss. We had a decent run of fixtures to start the season leaving a lot of tougher fixtures for the second half.
     
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  14. I could say a similar thing to all the people that type off subject comments like "how many articles is this today Tash", on my articles, but i don't, because if i did people would say "it's an open forum, we're all entitled to have our say you prick".

    <ok>
     
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  15. Hugh Briss

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    I was right, you're a WUM and a very poor one at that. I would love to have seen YOU manage the team to the Championship title! <laugh> ...

    You, like every other half-wit with a poor memory tends to forget the players that left following our relegation. Perhaps you'd like to present that list?

    It's all very well saying we had Andy Carroll up front etc but it was under Hughton's management that he became the player he is today.

    If name-calling is all you have then it suggests you're ignorant and not very intelligent - although I think that's pretty clear. <ok>
     
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  16. Hugh Briss

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    True enough but writing a comment to 'inform' people to your lack of interest in a subject seems pointless to me. Better just to move on to a subject that interests you? No?
     
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  17. Geordie Gashead

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    This is the most sensible point raised.
     
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  18. Arfa's Left Foot

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    You are in no position to call somebody ignorant. I disagree with you and you scream WUM? I have more posts than you and all but about 25 are on the Newcastle board. Whereas you spend half your time WUMming General Chat and the other half WUMming on our board.

    The players that left? Owen, Martins, Beye, Duff, Bassong, Viduka and Xisco. Owen, Viduka and Duff were all useless for us. Martins was atrocious the year we went down. Beye was good but wasn't irreplacable. Bassong was good but I always preferred Taylor. Xisco, less said the better. So we got rid of deadwood that wanted to leave and reduced the wage budget? I can see how that must have made his job harder. Andy Carroll scored his first league goal for us under Kinnear(with his hair in cornrows by the way) so it isn't like Hughton found this kid from nowhere and made him class. He's always had potential and I doubt it was Hughton that made him a physical battering ram for us.
     
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  19. Hugh Briss

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    No, I called you a WUM because you called me a "prick" & a "simple ****er" because my view differed to yours. What would you call someone who behaves like that?

    In a relegation season, I think it's fair to assume that next to no players will have covered themselves in glory.

    You make a point of blaming the players completely for our relegation but make no comment on the board and their appointment of 4 different managers in that season? Do you not think that had an effect?

    Andy Carroll is a great deal more than a "battering ram" - an England international in fact. More facts that seem to escape your notice.
    He may well have scored his first goal while Kinnear was 'in charge' but I think it's fair to say that Carroll developed in his CCC season... under Chris Hughton.
     
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  20. Colly NUFC

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    I think you just answered your own question. The Premier League is no place to be learning the ropes and the board was no doubt fearful of an after Christmas slump, so brought in someone more experienced. No way to say whether or not CH could've achieved what Pards has so far, but if I was a betting man I'd say probably not. For once the decision was made at the right time and gave Pardew a full transfer window (to sell Andy Carroll in the end...) and time to get his players used to his systems to gain safety and build towards this year.

    CH did a great job getting us straight back up, but the signs were there that he was out of his depth with such little experience, not least in his abject fear of making subs before it was far too late to make a difference and our 'just whack it' setpieces. All the best for him at Brum, but I felt it was the right call at the time, and it certainly is now.
     
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