Phil, I thoroughly appreciate what you did for the Tigers in getting us into the Prem, but its all water under the Humber Bridge now mate. To write such drivel as you have this morning in the Yorkshire post reassures me that you will never learn to engage brain before opening that anus on the front of your face. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spor...kept_hull_safe_from_drop_says_brown_1_3068450
This says it all for me when most city fans are gushing over tanman .(The Preston manager told the Yorkshire Post: “I am looking forward to going back, even though to me it is basically just another game – albeit an important one that we want to win.)
Sorry, but I cannot see anything wrong with what he is saying. He is the current manager of Preston North End. He has to balance the undoubted regret and fondness emotions he will have when he returns with the need to be focussed on his current job as manager of another club. I don't see anything egotistical in that comment. In fact he is saying the success was brought about by a TEAM effort. This is another bandwagon thing where a bunch of sheep are disengaging brains and falling in line with the re-write history brigade. Increadible that these hypocrites were probably there at Wembley cheering on the team THAT HE LEAD to the Premiership.
He slagged the club and fans off at a dinner and speach last year to everyones enjoyment .Till he did the walkabout at the end to find a table from hull.
How tango man can continue to suggest he would have kept us up is beyond me. I don't carry a stastical record but I believe we needed at least 10 points from 7 games or something like. The point being he'd been in charge for the previous 20 some games and we had not had more than 1 win. With barlett and Duffen they nearly lost this club if you believe what AP said At cottingham. Let's say thank you for the success and then beat them 5 0.
We ended up 5 points from safety, you'd think Brown would have beaten Burnley at home for sure, there's three points, we also drew with Sunderland which was a winnable game and we could have easily beaten Portsmouth, because despite our away record being dismal, their overall record was. Same with Wigan really. So it's not unfeasible to say we'd have stayed up with Brown, and stats at this point mean nothing because you're comparing games against Man Utd, Arsenal et al with the games I've just mentioned, and presuming we'd have the same chance of winning, which I'm sure you'd agree is bollocks.
Yeah, don't tell me your grannies, second cousin's neighbours dog told you that. Or perhaps you can post a link to the wav of him saying it. THOUGHT NOT!
I think he would have kept us up imo. The games against Portsmouth, Burnley, sunderland and wigan were all winnable. I think that brown would have beaten burnley, wigan and portsmouth tbh, giving us 9 extra points and keeping us in the league. Then we should have sacked him. Sorry but the decision to sack him at the time we did and replace him with the joke that is iain dowie is unforgivable
I agree Matt the Tiger, he was sacked at the wrong time. He might have kept us up but we needed to get shot of him anyway, he was away with the fairies for the last year or so with us and the club was becoming a laughing stock because of him, not to mention the legion of crap players he was saddling us with and which we are still getting rid of now.
nothing can ever be proven..what would have happended..like many others, one thing im certain of, is he would have got us closer then dowie
Due to Duffen selling our defence we had no chance in away games last year, I even said this on 606 when we sold Turner, that we wouldn't win an away game. So we had to make the most of our home games: Brownie had all the hard matches against top teams, and yet only Man U and Arsenal beat us at home all season. Dowie had Sunderland, Villa and Burnley all beat us at home easily and we were crap all 3 times. He got the worst out of our best player who PB got the best out of. As dj says, you can't prove what wopuld have happened but looking at it logically Brown did way, way better than Dowie did. It was a stupid decision to get rid, a stupid appointment of Dowie and stupid time to do it. However, we are better off now for it.
We definitely are a lot better off for it, still you will always get those who to like to live in the past, and lets face it the promotion season was a fantastic time, taken on its own merits and not what happened later.
Oh and I completely agree with StrovolosTiger, there is nothing in that quote where he'sa said anything out of the ordinary. That's just what any returning manager would say. I can't open the link so I haven't seen the ful thing.
Yeah that away win against Arsenal was a real kick in the teeth, scoring three at Old Trafford really took the biscuit too. No idea why people want to look back at our time in the Premiership as a bad experience, or how anyone can genuinely say they're enjoying Hull City more now than at any time during Brown's tenure.
Neither Ashbee's Plums nor I were saying that. We just said the long term future of the club is more healthy with the management team we have now and the Allams than with Duffen and Brown.
I reckon Brown had to go at the time. The board were not confident that he could keep us up. Given that we had the worst form in the Premiership at the time by some margin, I'm not sure how anyone could say that we would have gone on to beat Burnley, Pompey and Sunderland. The decision was debatable - that's why we're still talking about it now - but what was cataclysmically wrong was appointing Dowie as successor. That was the final nail in the coffin. What were they thinking? Did they have someone else in mind and then realised that, having placed Brown on gardening leave, they had to find someone? I still can't fathom that one out.
Whilst i disagree I understand Phil Brown saying this. Of course he would believe he would of kept us up. Could of happened although we will never know so it will make a great debating point for ever more. However you say in a later post that we would of beat Burnley and probably Pompy. The Burnley game was embaressing. However we can not ever be sure. Take our win at the Arsenal. Re Pompy we where 5 mins from 3 points. How many would of walked into the bookies at that point and gone for a home win. To summerise we will never know for sure.
This is one of the best posts on the whole sorry state we found ourselves in towards the end of last season. We should have stuck with Brownie till the end and seen what would happen. But, i think Bartlett made the ultimate mistake at that time. Echo your last statement with a happy heart and a confident outlook
