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  1. Zanjinho

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  2. Libby

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    Scores too many goals for my liking :bandit:
     
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    Some proper scummy reports coming out of club staff having to use charities to survive.
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Ironically he along with 18 other clubs voted in favour of charging 14.95 a game though. Was only Leicester that opposed it.
     
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    Talk about reading the room wrong ... I'm glad the idiots and PL have decided to review this. If they had decided to charge a flat £15 p/month for all the games, then there would have been more demand (even £15 a month is stupidly high when compared to other streaming sites).
     
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    Don't think they'd have got too many complaints had they made it a fiver, they'd still made money on it too, probably more actually.
     
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  7. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    This was a really good opportunity to test a Netflix style model and they completely got it wrong. There are some really sh*te games on the Box Office as well, and who in their mind would pay to watch it.
     
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    I said the same when NOW TV was launched. That's £10 per day now but only for games that are on Sky Sports already.

    It was always going to be the less attractive matches. Sky Sports, BT Sports and Prime have already picked the best ones.
     
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    True but he's not suggesting scrapping it, he said the price should be reviewed. He's suggested £4.95 until Christmas.

    What he's actually doing is reacting to the backlash and playing to current circumstances; people are struggling make affordable up to Christmas. What he's not saying is once people are used to it, they can start to push the price up slowly without worry of further criticism.
     
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    If you're a fan of those "less attractive" teams you're still going to want to follow your team - no matter who else is playing, so you'll pay if it's reasonable. The problem is that the TV companies have no understanding of - and no empathy with - real fans, and pander to the newer generation of plastics for whom footie is trendy and will just watch the big-name games regardless.
    That's where the money is, and that's all they care about.
    Now TV used to be a good way of just paying for what you want, but when I used it it was lousy SD on the telly. On PC it was HD, then they foisted a stand-alone app on you which didn't work properly on my old steam-driven machine so I dumped it.
    The best solution for everyone would be a club package where you could watch all of your team's games.
    I'm sure they would make money from this, and no-one would be left out - but perhaps there are still legal restrictions on this?
     
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    Ashley playing his "(Rich) Man of the People" act.
     
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    The problem of going for a PPV model is that it will exacerbate the gap in TV income between clubs . One of the draws of PL is the fact it has been so competitive and part of that is due to its , comparatively , fair distribution of the TV revenue .
     
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    Not really because the bigger teams and more attractive matches are already selected for TV and won't be on PPV
     
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  14. Solid Air 2

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    i'm on about making all of a clubs games available since people are talking about this due to the limited number of games being shown at present .
     
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    This will only benefit the big clubs because the demand is there. The smaller clubs will not be able to generate enough interest in their games.

    Any deal for football TV rights needs to be sold as an entire package to ensure it's fair for all 20 teams.
     
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    agreed .
     
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    Def. The system the Spanish had, do they still have? where Barca and Real got all the cash, starved the other clubs, much of the reason why the drop off in quality is so steep outside of the top 4
     
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    no it got binned some years ago as they saw the benefits of a more equitable distribution as per PL . Think Barca & Real still by far the biggest earners but their percentage of total has dropped by approc 10 percent .
     
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    Perhaps I wasn't clear. I don't mean for an individual club to sell its games directly, that would obviously give the result you point out. I mean that TV companies could offer individual packages to the fans of each club. The proceeds will still be dished out according to an agreement arrived at by everybody.
    At the moment fans of smaller clubs only get to see their team play a handful of times, even though they have to pay for the whole lot.
    However, I presume there are still legal restrictions to prevent the live broadcast of Saturday 3pm games.
     
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    tbh i think the smaller teams would be against that as they would suspect , rightly imo , that the next obvious next step would be "look how many more ours pay for TV season ticket we deserve far more or even better all of the money from our fans " .
     
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