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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    Hope this is already included in the billions laid out.

     
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    Either that or there wont be an economy to recover mate. Wish they could stretch to feeding poor kids like they could to help people afford to eat out
     
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    **** sake
     
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    May I ask ( if not tell me to bugger off)
    You're self employed Col..can I ask if you are getting any of this
     
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  5. Star of David Bardsley

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    Might apply and mention I’ll donate £250 a day of it to the Tories.
     
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    I am too Beth, and I've not seen a penny, even when I was off, as I "didn't meet the criteria"....
     
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  7. Steelmonkey

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    At least Santa has been designated s key worker for the day - maybe he can deliver some Christmas dinners for the poor kids? Hope he sanitizes his hands before popping down the chimney
     
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    I qualify for the self employed grants yes.
     
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    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    As well as Steelmonkey, I know a number of self employed musicians ( I know you are a musician too Col) ...like John Spiers of ex band Bellowhead, who was earning in excess of 30 k before Covid...and paying taxes. Who has not seen a penny of this money...as he is ineligible.

    I have a few friends who live hand to mouth as musicians...and they are living on hand outs.

    I have a friend who is running a craft business less than a year old...who has put her life savings into the business...and has nothing in since March...and is ineligible.

    Yes the government can't help everyone...I knoe

    But a lot of people are so struggling at this time, with nothing to look forward to.

    I also heard tonight Oxford has not been put up to Tier 2 because the local MPs asked Boris not too....even though the R levels and infection cases are higher than us in Bucks

    It is not what you know but who you know
     
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    Don’t know about praise, but it’s certainly welcome. It’s just a shame that there is no co-ordination between the public health policy announcements and the economic support announcements which always follow after a few days of business owners, especially small business owners, being on the news pointing out the consequences of the public health measures. It never feels like a plan. What business need, including the self employed I’m guessing, is some clarity about the future. The Germans extended their Kurzarbeit support to maintain income for those forced into part time working, thus also supporting their employers, back in August - until the end of next year, people know where they stand.

    Sunak is in a very interesting position. How long can he go on without a proper budget?
     
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    Why did you ask Beth?
     
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  12. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    just wondered, have you applied previously, and have you got anything...again tell me to go away.
    You are right it is actually none of my business
     
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    Coronavirus: Lung cancers 'may have been misdiagnosed as COVID' during pandemic
    Some patients who had a cough and could have lung cancer were told to stay home for fear they had caught coronavirus.

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    • The first wave of the coronavirus outbreak has had a huge impact on UK lung cancer patients' survival and detection rates, a report has said.

      A third of patients have died since the beginning of the pandemic, experts said, while waiting for life-saving treatment while referrals for the deadly disease dropped by 75% during the first lockdown.
















      The UK Lung Cancer Coalition warned that "the catastrophe that is the COVID-19 pandemic" is likely to reverse improvements in survival rates made over the past 20 years.



      A cough is a symptom for both illnesses, meaning some patients who could have lung cancer were told to stay home for fear they had coronavirus.

      They were therefore being diagnosed at a later stage, significantly damaging their survival chances.


      The report said: "GPs are likely to misdiagnose early lung cancer symptoms as COVID-19 because of the large number of COVID-19 cases."

      Professor David Baldwin, respiratory medicine consultant at the University of Nottingham, said: "At least a third of patients with lung cancer have already died since the beginning of the pandemic.

      "Some deaths will not have been recognised as lung cancer and may have even been labelled as COVID-19."

      It said that in some areas referrals by GPs to lung cancer specialists fell by 75% during the peak of the outbreak in Spring.




      Professor Sir Mike Richards, former director of the National Cancer Institute, said: "There is a specific problem for lung cancer, which is the overlap of symptoms with COVID-19.

      "Some patients may develop cough symptoms and be told to stay at home until their symptoms get worse. This has resulted in an increase in late stage presentations."

      Lung cancer is the UK's most deadly cancer, killing 35,300 each year - more than breast and bowel cancer combined.

      Prompt referrals from a GP to hospital for a scan are crucial for lung cancer survival chances.

      The report said: "With studies showing a 16% increase in mortality if the time from diagnosis to surgery is more than 40 days, a delay of three months or more can mean the progression from a potentially curative tumour towards one that is only suitable for palliative care."

      It added: "It is estimated that the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic could lead to an additional 1,372 deaths due to lung cancer, reversing the progress achieved in lung cancer over recent years."

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      Long COVID: The debilitating after-effects of coronavirus


      Detection and referral rates of breast cancer have also been affected by the pandemic, NHS England said in June.

      The Department of Health urged people to come forward if they have lung cancer symptoms.

      Health Secretary Matt Hancock told MPs on Tuesday "the number of people experiencing a long wait for cancer treatment has been brought down by 63% since its peak in July".
     
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    Lockdown's lethal toll laid bare: 50,000 children see surgery postponed, treatments for strokes plunge by almost 50%, and one in FIVE people were hit with depression in just one month as devastating effect of coronavirus restrictions are revealed
    • 25,000 more people died at home during pandemic as they didn’t go to hospital
    • Huge backlog in NHS treatment set to cause 20% rise in cancer patient deaths
    • Organ transplant operations fell by two thirds while waiting list deaths doubled
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      • Mail carried out audit of 130 studies from journals, academics and charities
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      A devastating picture of the impact of the lockdown on the nation’s health and wellbeing is today revealed in an exclusive analysis that brings together more than 130 studies.

      The Daily Mail audit – based on research published by medical journals, leading academics and charities – shows that the damage inflicted by the lockdown extends into every sphere of health, including cancer, heart disease, addiction, the welfare of children, domestic violence and mental illness.

      Experts say the analysis suggests that even after the pandemic ends, it will take years for the NHS to catch up with backlogs – and it will be too late for tens of thousands of patients.

      Doctors and politicians called on the Government to ensure all health services are protected if the spread of Covid-19 continues. The audit of 132 documents shows:

      • Delays in treatment are set to cause a 20 per cent rise in deaths among newly diagnosed cancer patients in England – 6,270 excess deaths this year;
      • Treatment for strokes fell by 45 per cent during lockdown and there were more than 2,000 excess deaths in from heart disease;
      • More than 50,000 operations for children were cancelled;
      • Organ transplants fell by two thirds, with the number of those who died on the transplant waiting list almost doubling;
      • Total waiting lists for routine orthopaedic and eye operations are at record levels;
      • Calls to child abus
        • e helplines rocketed;
        • As rates of depression and anxiety doubled, thousands of recovering alcoholics have relapsed.
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        A devastating picture of the impact of the lockdown on the nation’s health and wellbeing is today revealed in an exclusive analysis that brings together more than 130 studies
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        A second wave of infections across parts of the north west and Wales has threatened to further devastate services and possibly prevent more people from receiving life-saving medication or treatment

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      NHS Digital estimates there were 26.7million fewer GP appointments in England between March and August this year than in the sa
      me period in 2019 – down from 146.2million to 119.5million

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      At least 25,000 more people have died at home during the pandemic in Engla
      and and Wales because they were unable to – or chose not to – go to hospital, a surge of 43.8 per cent on normal levels.

      And 85,400 people died in private homes rather than in hospitals or care homes between March 20, when lockdown started, and September 11, an Office for National Statistics report revealed, the equivalent of around 100 extra deaths a day.

      Prince William, speaking to Liverpool business owners yesterday, days after the city was forced into Tier Three virus restrictions, revealed his fears of a ‘mental health catastrophe’ if Britain’s entertainment industry goes bust due to Covid-19.

      Cancer patients set to suffer for years
      The toll of lockdown on cancer patients will be felt for years, researchers say.

      If a tumour is spotted early, it can often be dealt with quickly. But if it spreads there is often nothing a doctor can do.

      The suspension of cancer screenings during lockdown is likely to lead to a surge of cases caught too late.

      GP appointments also plummeted and between April and August urgent cancer referrals fell by 350,000 in England, according to Cancer Research UK.

      Treatment was also put on hold – with chemotherapy procedures falling by between 45 per cent and 66 per cent in April alone.

      Academics at UCL calculated that within a year 6,270 extra Britons will have died of cancer in England owing to the pandemic. Hospitals are bracing themselves for a leap in cancer referrals which could add to the impact of a second wave.




      Boris Johnson is poised to place Greater Manchester into the highest level of lockdown restrictions today, despite
      opposition from local politicians. Talks on whether the region should enter the ‘very high risk’ Tier Three ended in deadlock again.

      Health Secretary Matt Hancock yesterday said talks were continuing with local leaders in South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, Teesside and the North East. It means another ten million Britons could face the toughest restrictions by the end of this week.

      Wales announced it was to re-enter what First Minister Mark Drakeford called a ‘time-limited firebreak’. He described it as ‘a short, sharp, shock to turn back the clock, slow down the virus and buy us more time’.

      More than 43,700 Britons have died from coronavirus, and thousands more would have died had there been no lockdown in March. But, as the country faces tighter restrictions, the focus is now turning to the indirect casualties
      of those measures.

      Professor Karol Sikora, a cancer specialist and head of Buckingham Medical School, said the findings of the Mail’s audit were a ‘stunning demonstration of lockdowns’ harmful effects across society’.

      He added: ‘If lockdown were a drug, you’d need to consider the side effects, and yet we’re not – even though we seem to be diving headlong into another one.

      ‘People sometimes claim it’s a question of health versus the economy, but it’s not – it’s health versus health.’ Professor Sikora supports last week’s Great Barrington Declaration, now signed by more than 10,700 scientists and 29,700 doctors worldwide, calling on governments to adopt an approach of ‘focused protection’, shielding the vulnerable while opening up the economy.

      Sunetra Gupta, one of the Declaration’s authors and an Oxford University epidemiologist, said: ‘These papers and data are starting to build the evidence to show that the collateral damage has been immense – and will continue with extreme measures such as lockdowns. The time has surely come to take their full costs measures into account.’
     
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  16. Steelmonkey

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    So now Long Covid has official status, here's a two minute video released by the NHS in England

     
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    I'm waiting for results from my blood tests and chest x-ray, but I am beginning to think I might have Long Covid. Not as badly as your wife or the people in the video, but I have experienced fatigue for weeks now, which can be quite debilitating. With so little experience to go on, it must be hard to diagnose though.
     
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    Good to see relatively rapid proper recognition for long COVID, given the years it has taken to agree that things like ME are ‘real’. Obviously the best thing is to take precautions and not catch the disease but I would have liked to see some commitment in that video to finding effective treatments. It’s nobody’s fault that they have developed this, and even people who have been hyper cautious catch the virus.

    The symptoms sound very much like Lupus, minus the rashes. It wouldn’t surprise me if ultimately long COVID is classed as an autoimmune condition. Virus is long gone but the immune system is haywire.

    Hope you get some answers mate, and that there is a clear treatment pathway.
     
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    Hope it's not pal, as it's a long haul. The missus has said at times that she's felt as if she's dying. Our GP has been excellent, and has multiple patients displaying symptoms.

    As a pre-emptive measure, she's told me to tell you to start taking some vitamins - D, B12, feratin and folate. Also Co-Enzyme Q-10.

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    Any idea what they are checking your bloods for? The missus has had them done three or four times, each one looking for something different (thyroid, menopause, vitamin deficiency, clotting etc) - and she's definately iron deficient which the GP has indicated is very common in Long-Covid patients.
     
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    A big thumbs up from the missus for your reply, says you couldn't be more spot on :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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