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Off Topic Coronavirus - 606 tales from the Inquiry

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by lardiman, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Sandman

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    I think you've misunderstood me. I don't mind that my science is not understood or believed in. My claims hurt nobody, it's really no big deal. The links are for members in general, as there are a few that would like to read them. I could send you the basics, it's all in pictures and diagrams. PM me with an email address and I'll send you some stuff, but not getting credit is not a problem for me. There are many scientists, writers and artists who's work wasn't recognised until after their death. I live by my science, it's a good life akin to Disneyland. Before I discovered it, my life was more Hammer Horror lol. If you're not interested, I'll put the subject away and not bung up threads or Lardi will have my guts for garters.

    Edit: Nah, forget it. I'm going to shelve my science and concentrate on my pop career.
     
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  2. lardiman

    lardiman We can rebuild him
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    I see now South Yorkshire is about to be moved into Tier 3 (lockdown Mk2).

    That's pretty much all the poorest parts of the country sorted out now.
    Are Tyneside & Teeside under Tier 3 yet? If not, they probably will be soon.

    The Government has at least partly solved the dilemma of wrecking the economy in order to save lives.
    Taking advantage of the virus hitting hardest in deprived areas, Boris now does not need to wreck the whole English Economy.
    Only the bits he doesn't care about.

    If you're going to close thousands of small employers across vast swathes of the country, you don't pay their employees 67% of minimum wage then tell them to apply for Universal Credit (payment delay time about 6 weeks on average I think, even if you qualify).
    You either pay 100% or you don't order businesses to close at all.
    Neither do you cut off supply chains but pay suppliers nothing, because you haven't actually ordered them to close - even though you know they will have to, directly because of Tier 3 restrictions.

    This is just typical.
    Like saying now that home-owners are going to have to pay thousands in order to get illegal flammable cladding removed from their buildings, because the Government will only fund about one third of the cost. While the value of their investment has fallen to zero.

    Or making every driver who lives within the North & South Circular roads pay £15 every day to take their car off their front drive and onto the public road.
    As well as pushing up rail fares well above inflation, and introducing an extra new Council tax charge for every person living in London.

    If this Government can hang you out to dry, it will.
     
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  3. The Pub Landlord

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    I wouldn't be interested in wading through reams of theory but would be interested in reading any results of controlled tests by experts.
     
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  4. The Pub Landlord

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    I wrote elsewhere some while ago that "track and trace" could be employed more usefully - track any contract awarded by the Government and trace it back to where one of their mates is getting the benefit.

    Meanwhile OAPs have just been given an annual rise in state pensions that just about covers the cost of the TV licences they now have to buy.

    Corbyn damaged Labour very badly and Starmer is not the answer. Swanson finished the LibDems and Johnson is applying death blows to the Conservatives. Meanwhile the country is in trillions of debt and only those with state or local authority jobs are being looked after. Everyone else is being shut down and forced into genuine poverty for the first time since the beginning of the second World War. What could possibly go wrong?
     
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    There are thousands of experts with differing opinions, that is monumental wading, and at the death we would probably be none the wiser.
     
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    A more terrifying experience than catching Covid

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  9. Sandman

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    He's royalty you know.
     
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    Should be titled "Me with The Legenday Ackers"
     
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  11. Sandman

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    Whatever you think of him, he's CAFC through and through. He will also help anyone and usually does what he says he will. He's completely off the wall and believes he can achieve anything, plus he never holds a grudge. Yes he's legendary, and he's all ours.
     
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  12. Sandman

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    I've had dealings with four Tory MP's, and have no evidence whatsoever that they don't care about poor people or single out particular communities for bad treatment. When we hate without cause we build barriers that basically make us dumb, being that it narrows our social outlook and understanding. This mindset takes us further away from society when we compound our negativity by applying the same thinking towards friends and family that have a different political leaning.

    Those that use their imagination and personal opinion to fuel their hate for others are not winners, they just think they are.

    NB: I didn't vote Tory.
     
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    I don't think Tories hate poor people.
    They understand that their kind of economy needs poor people to make it work.
    They just don't care about poor people.

    Marcus Rashford humiliated them into providing free meals for poor children during the summer holidays.
    But they didn't understand why.
    No Tory can comprehend a parent not having enough money to pay the rent (avoid eviction) and feed their kids.
    In Tory eyes, any parent that poor must be lazy, or spending their money on booze & cigs while their kids starve.

    So they gave Rashford a Gong and hoped he would just shut up and go away.
    Good for him that he hasn't.
    So over 300 Tories voted against extending free meals for poor kids this half-term, and over Christmas.
    If I was MR I would seriously consider giving my MBE back.

    EDIT:

    Well done Caroline Ansell

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54642788

    Has resigned from the Government after its latest vote on free school meals.
    Voted against the Government too.
    A Conservative with a conscience.
     
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    I've edited my post, I meant to write "don't care about" I was born in1947...we were very poor, plus we had rationing. I never once heard of a child not having a dinner, and there was no handouts then. .I was a single parent for officially 7 years. I lived on a pittance but my children never went without a wholesome meal. I could put together a roast chicken dinner today for a family of 4 at a cost of £6.50.

    How is it myself and my parents fed their children in generally poorer times, when today with so many benefits kids are starving? I don't need an answer, I know why already.
     
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    No Tory can comprehend a parent not having enough money to pay the rent (avoid eviction) and feed their kids.
    In Tory eyes, any parent that poor must be lazy, or spending their money on booze & cigs while their kids starve.

    Wow, you actually know what is in the hearts and minds of 288 individuals from varying backgrounds. If what you've written is true, then by the same token, you don't care about children in third world countries because you haven't lived their lives.

    Most insane post I've ever read.
     
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  16. lardiman

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    With all due respect, children in third world countries are not my problem.
    Their Governments need to be looking after them, not me.

    I wouldn't expect somebody from Yemen or Ethiopia to come to this country and tell me how to look after my children (if I had any).
    So why should people from this country do likewise in other parts of the world?

    Everybody knows Tories don't care about the poor, and Socialists don't care about the rich.
    In this country we've had oppression of the masses for over 200 years.
    In other countries they rounded up their ruling classes and sent them to the Guillotine, or shot them.

    That's politics.
    It's not a nice game and it's not played by nice people.
     
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    Politics changed when taxation became a major issue. There used to be a cross-party consensus that if the government needed money taxes went up, everyone moaned and that was that. Now the idea of raising taxes is politically toxic in all parties. No-one dare suggest raising taxes to get us through the pandemic, no-one.
     
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    Not even the Lib Dems anymore.
     
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  19. lardiman

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    It seems the Welsh Government is confusing going into Lockdown for three weeks with returning to the Stone Age.
    Supermarkets there are being told to only sell essential items...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54648194

    But (not helpfully) the Welsh Government won't tell the supermarkets exactly what the essential items actually are.
    Reminds me of that daft Copper back in April who said Police would be going through people's shopping trolleys to make sure they were only buying essential goods during the real lockdown.

    Some busybodies over there need to be reminded this 'circuit-break' they're doing is an unpleasant last alternative.
    Not an excuse for them to enjoy bullying people with ridiculous medieval edicts.
     
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  20. Sandman

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    23,000 excess deaths in the UK since March. Average age nowhere near 83.
     
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