Ozil needs to start scoring goals or be replaced.

Now Ozil gets alot of critiscm these days, much of which is unfair. But for the money he is paid the guy is simply not giving us the required output.

If you look at him statistically he is getting less and less assists every year despite playing with arguably better forwards.

The modern 10 needs to score goals particularly in a side with two deep lying midfielders behind him. It is absolutely essential.

2019/20
Goals: (Number 10/AMF goals)
1 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal,GER)
13 Paulo Dybala(Juventus, ARG)
9 De Bruyne (man City, BEL)
9 Coutinho (Real Madrid, BRA)
9 James Rodriguez (Bayern,COL)
8 Hakim Ziyech (Ajax).
10 Kai Havertz (Germany, Leverkusen)
23 Neymar (PSG,Brazil)
24 Lionel Messi (Barcelona, ESP)

Assists: (general assist comparison)
2 Mesut Ozil (Arsenal,GER)
16 Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City, ENG)
16 Lionel Messi (Barcelona, ESP)
16 Thomas Müller (Bayern München, GER)
15 Jadon Sancho (Dortmund, GER)
14 Ángel Di María (Paris Saint-Germain, FRA)
12 Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool, ENG)
12 Luis Alberto (Lazio, ITA)
12 Christopher Nkunku (Leipzig, GER)
10 Achraf Hakimi (Dortmund, GER)
10 Thorgan Hazard (Dortmund, GER)

Something has to change here. We cant afford to be playing a guy in an advanced position who isn't contributing goals or assists to the required numbers. On top of that he's the highest paid player in our squad.

If you look at say the classic attacking sides from the early 2000's. You would generally have two forwards and two wingers - all of whome were expected to score. (think Henry, Bergkamp,Pires and Ljungeberg)
In a contemporary 4231 - you still have those 4 attacking players only its 1 CF, 2x WF's and a No.10/AMF.

With Xhaka/Guen/Torr all naturally deep lying midfeierds our AMF/10 HAS to contribute. To win leagues and compete at the highest level you need goals from all your attacking players and at the very least you need assists.

 

We lack creativity at CM ozil's best performances came with santi in the team who would find ozil in space at top speed. Now he doesn't have that and is being forced to drop deep which is not his game at all

 

He's never wow'ed at Arsenal. Even his best Season wasn't anything special.
The excuse used to be we dont have a proper holding player so he has to defend too much. Now we
have Xhaka, Torreira and Guendouzi and were still not seeing improved performances.
An elite talent for sure though.

 

Sorry but that’s just nonsense. His best season at Arsenal he was on fire. Set records for chances created in a single game, consecutive games with assists and fell just short of beating the overall record for assists in a season. Ozil was absolutely immense for us but because he didn’t run around like Sanchez didn’t get the credit he deserved.

 

In regards to the overall question, he’s never scored a lot of goals per season, that doesn’t particularly bother me if he is creating. He seemed to have gone off the rails a bit and it didn’t help that Emery and him seemed to fall out. But since Arteta has taken over, even though he hasn’t necessarily been scoring and getting the assists, he’s been one of our better players.

The reality is I don’t think he will leave until he is out of contract so we’ve got him for another year regardless. When he is playing well he is incredible and he is capable of stuff none of our other players are. So I’d like to see us utilise him as much as possible and try to build the team in a way that gets the best out of him. Obviously if he doesn’t perform drop him, but with his wages and talent we need the manager to get him performing.

 

I saw an interview with berbatov and he was speaking about the lazy tag he has, and he said "I'm not lazy I'm smart I make good movements so I dont need to run" I think the same can be said for ozil. Also about holding midfielder I wouldn't say xhaka was a holding mid guendouzi perhaps but he's more sideways then denilson was for us

 

Agreed we are stuck with him, may aswell do what we can to get the most of him this is not prime ozil but he's still our 2nd best player after Auba

 

It should bother you though. We play two deep lying midfielders - this means we only realistically have four players RW/LF/CF/AMF who will get into regular goalscoring positions. They all need to contribute. Also as already stated he's not getting many assists either.

 

If Mesut gets 20 odd asists a Season fine - we can cope with the lack of goals but if we are looking at 0-5 assists a Season and very few goals... He absolutely NEEDs to be replaced.

He's on World Class wages but putting in bang average output. (regardless of how skillful he is)

 

Its easy to say that he needs to be replaced, But with who? Dont say Cebballos He's at Sevilla or Villarreal next season that's his level. Ozil is not worth 350k a week i think every arsenal fan would agree with that. But to spend big money on a #10 when we need an #8 a CB even RB more is not a good idea for me. Its not like we can sell Ozil and reinvest he's not giving up that big pay day for nothing and i don't blame him for it either.

 

Well I would say Ceballos has looked better than Ozil for us this Season and you say he's not of the required standard... Then Ozil certainly is'nt anymore. In an ideal scenario I would love us to bring in Kai Haverts. (but he may be beyond us price wise)

I agree we need a No.8 - personally would love to see Thomas Partey come in.

I would love us to bring in another TOP CB but we have added Mari and Saliba to our CB options.
Mari, Saliba, Sokratis, Holding, Chambers, Mustafi, Mavropanos and Luiz. - We have to sell a few before we can bring in anyone at this position realistically.

I think the fact Ozil is one of only two players in the squad who wouldnt agree to a pay cut during this time tells us all we need to know. He is just playing for the money. There's no passion or fire in his performances and it shows statistically.

 

There was 3 players who refused the pay cut but only ozil got outed for it, I can emphasize with him for turning it down the new regime (raul) have been trying to get him out of the club quite publicly, the owner is a billionaire who is married to another billionaire I wouldn't take a pay cut either. You also have to consider how much he donates to charity before and during COVID. I think the not taking a pay cut is more nuanced then what the press have been fed and are now feeding to us

 

The owner may be a 'billionaire' but I doubt he would bail the Club out should we start making major losses.We dont have an Abramovic situation here at all.

We are still a business that needs to generate money to survive - At the moment we still have massive expenditure without the ability to generate income. Arsenal will loose around £74 million should the rest of this Season get scrapped. (which would almost certainly cost us the ability to sign new players this summer)

Ozil's not playing at the moment, should he really be earning £350,000 a week for doing nothing?..I think a 12.5% paycut over this period is more than fair. (its not like he is going to struggle to pay his bills)

Also the fact the rest of the squad agreed but he refused shows us something.

 

I can see from a players perspective why you would say no to the pay cut, The owner has never invested his own money into the club now wants me to give up some of my money. This is the same club who gave Ozil the big contract realised it was a bad idea and have been trying to get rid of him as soon as Wenger left. I personally believe its the club who informed the media it was Ozil who rejected the pay cut but failed to mention the other players who rejected it. You also have to ask yourself why do we only know about Ozil? is it because if they let us know who the other two players are we may have sympathy with them? My money is that it was the more senior players who rejected the pay cut Luiz and Auba. Also to add on the pay cut maybe Ozil wants to give the money to charity instead of arsenal i have seen a few stories of him doing just that not just now but for a long time.

 

So I guess that's the end for Ozil then.

Bit sad the way it's all gone. He probably should have moved in the summer when the club made it 100% clear that he wasn't in their plans.

 

He turned down £200k a week to stay for £300k a week so I’m not that disappointed he is going

 

yep, if he loves his football that much then surely he'd have jumped at the chance to play.

The club would have made it crystal clear that he wasn't in their plans, so he's chosen to just sit it out and collect his paycheck instead.

 

I read staying triggered a loyalty bonus which earned him a £8m bonus...

Crazy

 

Think we offered to pay up the rest of his contract so that he could move on. Something like £13m

Seems he's chosen to collect the £8m and hold out for the extra £13m in wages. And here he is complaining about loyalty.

 

I dislike him for all this.

I know - perhaps the Club should have stuck by him for his comments (re: China) but it's clear the guy values money above football and his legacy.

I think we will find out the Club told him in the summer he wouldnt be playing this Season but he stayed on because he was awaire of this 'loyalty bonus'