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Match Day Thread Vs Everton (A)

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Zanjinho, Oct 4, 2020.

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  1. luvgonzo

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    Each club has to start doing this though if there's clear mistakes. It's not about us getting to get a result changed the game is done but we shouldn't just accept the mistakes.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Mistakes happen, it's human error. It was the caae in the 19th century, it's still the case now. You're never going to eliminate that.

    One of the many reasons that VAR's utterly pointless.
     
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  3. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Agreed but I understand you have to draw a line somewhere. I just think it’s more logical if you say to someone, 100% of player A’s body is ahead of the last defender... therefor he’s offside.

    rather than currently which is, 99.9% of the player is in line with the defender but .1% of them is ahead and is therefor offside and gaining an advantage.

    you take it back and the point of offside was to stop goal hanging, the reason it was brought it is pretty much forgotten when you’re ruling out goals based on someone’s shirt sleeve being further forward. How is that gaining any advantage exactly
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I'd just make offsides naked eye only. No lines across the pitch nonsense and they get one replay.

    You only need one replay to see if a clear error has been made regards offside. 15 seconds, job done.

    The whole point of VAR is that it should be CLEAR AND OBVIOUS. It's mental that they've ignored that for offsides.

    Also worth pointing out that it's not accurate enough to say that someone is 2cm offside.
     
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  5. saintanton

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    You've obviously forgotten The Incident Of Bobby's Armpit. We've been ****ed over several times by VAR, and no doubt everyone will say the same about their team, but so what?
    It's a mess, but how are we going to get the thing looked at if not by requesting a review of specific incidents? If you just make a general complaint about the system you'll get fobbed off, so at least this way they might be forced to explain themselves.
    Imo, everybody should complain - not frivolously - but every time there is a clearly controversial decision they should be made to be answerable for it, if we ever expect the thing to do the job we were told it would do.
     
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  6. luvgonzo

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    Yeah the clear and obvious thing is spot on. Also do we really have to see all these ****ing lines and graphics? I don't ****ing care, that's something that might be interesting on motd but not during the game.
     
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  7. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Given you can’t actually freeze frame the exact moment someone’s kicked the ball. The ball doesn’t leave someone’s foot the moment it’s touched. If you go super slow mo zoned in you’re still in contact with the ball for micro seconds as the ball moves forward. So is it from when the foot touches the ball, the ball leaves the foot? You’re talking about such minute values that as you say needs to be a degree of leeway.
     
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  8. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Oh yeah I did actually, fair point. It didn't cost you any points though so I'd say there no was no real sense of injustice there. You're not gonna write asking for an explanation when you've not lost anything.

    Like I said earlier the angle I'd go is forcing the VAR officials to explain their decisions post match. Or bin VAR off but that's not gonna happen sadly.
     
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  9. Tobes

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    Bournemouth literally went down last season as the goal line tech failed in the Villa vs Sheff U game.

    **** happens.
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    And VAR failed to spot it.
     
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  11. luvgonzo

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    We can't accept **** happens when it's put forward as an improvement on the previous **** happens option. It's not an improvement it's the same but more expensive.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    No worse than that, they weren’t allowed to review it, as it’s beyond the scope in the protocols.
     
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    It's why I don't like it - the reason for the offside rule has become lost in an overly precise judgement where it is simply a technical issue and no account is taken of whether any unfair advantage is sought or attained.
    Offside has always been a fairly arbitrary thing anyway, when an attacker can be played on by a defender thirty yards away on the other side of the pitch with no chance of making an interception, or off by an inch by someone standing right next to him.
    It was, as you say, designed to prevent goal-hanging - it should never have come down to a matter of inches.
     
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  14. Tobes

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    The rest of us where having these discussions a year ago mate. It’s been done to death.
     
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  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    That's not true. The PL confirmed after the match that it could and should have overruled to award the goal. They just weren't paying attention.

    Like they've got hundreds of other things to do in the booth. Probably ironing their kit.
     
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  16. luvgonzo

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    Yeah I was there and saying the same thing.
     
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  17. Tobes

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    You sure? I could have sworn they said at the time it was beyond the remit, but maybe it was easier later to blame some individuals than admit they’d failed to cover off that possibility in the protocols.
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    It was always going to be no different. I said this before it even came in.

    I also said it would feel much worse if your wronged after some ****'s spent ages watching it over and over compared to one bloke seeing it once.
     
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    You know I'm with you on the last point, but I think we're in a minority.
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    100% mate. I remember cos it meant I could point out that a VAR failure caused relegation (which apparently is why it was essential it was brought in).
     
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