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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
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  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Self explanatory mate
     
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  2. ELLERS

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    Please explain it because you have made a bit of a mistake mate?
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

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    The death rates are still miniscule and can be contained without Starmer bankrupting the ****ing country
     
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  4. ELLERS

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    I would go further and look at what he has said?
     
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  5. bobmid

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    I'm of the opinion that health is wealth. Do I agree with another lockdown? Well realistically, it's happening anyway, some wee town down south might escape though. I believe all we did was just hide from it last time and as soon as people were encouraged back to work/education etc then it spiralled again. Our only effective weapon has been a multi billion, world beating test and trace system run on a Microsoft excel document ffs. That's where the problem lays. An inadequate privatised system for profit over success.
     
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    Oh Starmer doesnt need to help with that. Johnsons doing just fine
     
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    I was going to give you half a like for that but you talked rubbish in the second half.
     
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    Whitty's briefing the other day contradicts that. He said that SAGE does take into account the effect on the economy and mental health, but that a short 'circuit-break' lock-down would be advantageous nonetheless. Sunak, the de facto PM, has ignored this advice.
     
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  9. bobmid

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    Did I, please point it out and correct me.
     
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  10. ELLERS

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    This is where your argument doesn't make sense because it's not the dead and poorly that will suffer if Starmer has his lockdown? It will be the economy and the normal people and if they suffer then the poor will as well.
    You're having a bit of a mare mate trying to supporting Starmer
     
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    mmm not according to an expert speaking at the moment.
     
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  12. bobmid

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    So I presume Ellers , that the test and trace didnt cost billions, isnt run by a private company who also sub contract to other private companies and the 16000 people **** up wasnt due to excel limitations.???
     
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    Sage is made up of scientists, health professionals and academics. I don't think there's an economist among them, so I don't have a great deal of faith in Whitty's assurances.
     
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    They are suffering already mate, losing jobs, mass unemployment, hospitilastions, death, mental health. Infection rates at record levels. Recession. It worked last time whether you agree with it or not. Could even try get the test and trace system working before it ended....theres a wacky idea hey
     
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  15. ELLERS

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    You see you cannot stick to what the argument is about. Same old bob you try and divert what we are actually discussing.
    Let's start again so you can understand.... We are discussing todays comments of Kier Starmer.
     
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  16. bobmid

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    Oh those economists arent worth piss mate, loads of brexiteers told me
     
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    Maybe that's why they keep saying 'following the science' and not "the Economy'. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    You said the second part of my post was rubbish Ellers, not me. Highlight what isnt true about it or just dont say it in the first place.
     
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    Oh dear... meltdown
     
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    They can't project twenty years into the future but those that work for the Chancellor of the Exchequer will be vastly more clued up than the scientists
     
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