Why is Bruce not getting sacked in the morning?Obviously,the old pals act between our excellent Chairman and current manager is keeping Bruce in his job.Bruce has bought another cuddy-load of players in close-season,when there was no need to,he hasn't bought a left-winger or left-back that we desperately need,nor has he bought an experienced replacement centre-forward to replace Bent.He did get a goalkeeper that we did not need.Our squad is now much weaker than it was,and Bruce has spent a fortune.I don't buy into the "net-spend" argument..he's spent a lot of money,and got us in a relegation-battle!He has also managed to reduce our crowds by over 10,000 each game,which will reduce our revenue by multi-thousands.How can anyone not expect him to keep his job??He should go now!!Poorer team.poorer attendances,poorer performances...time to go!!
I do wonder..how bad does it get before the owner does something to halt this inevitable slide into the Championship.
Its an inevitable thing for me too Flanders. I can see it as plain as the nose on my face that all the signs and evidence are there to back it up. The poor form, no team confidence, wrong players played in the wrong places by an ever desperate manager just too stubborn to see its all gone tits up and most worrying of all, no plan of action or signs of concern from the powers to be. Its like Cowie and Murray never left the building. We are sleep walking to relegation yet again and I fear it will be sometime in March when we have 20 points or so and are firmly in the bottom 3 that they will wake up and try to launch yet another fire fighting desperate rescue act over the final 10 games. Its heart breaking to see it happening again like so many times before and to see Quinny just closing his eyes to it.
For god sake it's not that bad yet which is why he has not been sacked. Bruce sees Richardson and Bardo as our 2 left backs. He sees Sess and Larsson as our LW, you will notice a lot of the best wingers play on the opposite wing to their favoured foot: Downing, Young, Nzog, Krancjar, Nani etc..... If by Christmas he has not got some results I am sure he will be gone. Gyan and Bendtner would have been a good partnership, but that was out of his hands. Quinn is being smart, we need stability so he is not jumping the gun, let's get behind the team until Xmas and see where we are. If we are 11th 12th and we can get a quality striker and centre half in then we have every chance of being top half.
Vegas : I'm not so sure about this 'stability' thing. When they went through a sticky patch about 1989/90 the Man U board stuck it out with Ferguson. But Fergie was a proven winner with a major European trophy under his belt. Bruce has nothing remotely like Fergie's Aberdeen success behind him. A month after Wenger joined Arsenal, I remember Ian Wright saying "This is the best manager I've ever played for" (and he'd played for George Graham). After a year with Bruce, Bent wanted out, and Gyan was out! Bruce can attract good players, but whereas players believed in Wenger the more they saw of him, it works the other way with Bruce. So while I'd like Sunderland to stabilise and prosper, I'm not so sure that we want this stability. It seems like a blueprint for failure to me - or at very best stable mediocrity.
How can Young and Nani, both right footed, both play in the same team, both play on the wrong side for their favoured foot?
I dont think its necessarily Bruce's fault that these 2 greedy ba$tard$ dropped us in it. In both cases imo it was all about the Benjamen's. Maybee less so for B$nt. Still a proper ****!
And while those two greedy bastards were leaving, that greedy bastard Bruce was negotiating a very nice increase in his own contract - or are we not supposed to remember that? In both cases imo it was a matter of being run stupid after hoofballs on their own all day. And Bruce was at fault for that - it was his tactic. Once they decided to go, of course, they looked for profitable deals - wouldn't you? I would.
Of course i look for more money!!! I really dont think they left cos they got sick of running after stupid hoofballs on their own all day!!! Bent was banging them in doing that in a top 6 premier league team (at the time). Gyan was all about $$$
And the fact that they were both strikers doesn't tell you anything? Was it really coincidence? Bent might have been banging them in doing that at the time, but banging them in is what he does - it doesn't mean he was happy doing it.
Oh lordy. Inevitable slide into the Championship!? Let's get real. We're not Bolton. We're only 3 points off 7th I think. We've not started brilliantly and I agree completely a lot of that is down to Bruce, but inevitable relegation?! Jesus. As for this 'loads of players' thing, they do actually need time to gel. It's not just something managers say to get themselves out of trouble. Try playing down the park with 10 people you've never met, you just don't know what balls people play, what runs they make, who you have to cover for when they push on, etc. Then try that again when some of the team don't speak English as a first language. I completely agree all is not rosy, and Bruce needs to get his act together. But the Gyan/Bent things are hardly his fault, the modern footballer is greedy. Like Vegas said, let's see where we are at Christmas, then if a tough decision needs to be made, we'll make it. We don't have to be consistently 7th all season long.
And who mentioned 'mediocre stability'?! We haven't been this 'mediocre'-ly stable in the top flight since the 1960s! Or have I got that wrong? Was it better when we were winning every game in the league below? Top flight stability, however mediocre it may seem, is not something that Sunderland AFC have had in my lifetime.
I mentioned it. I agree stable mediocrity in the top flight is better than we've had in years. But I don't think Ellis wants to stick at that, do you?
If I made pies, I'd be at work making pies tomorrow. I might well be thinking I wish I could make pies for a better employer - but I'd still be making pies while I thought it. Bent was scoring goals? - so what? The season he left Spurs he was the top scorer there too. It doesn't mean he was happy there. Or here.
If the plan is to stick with the same manager for the long-term then it is vitally important that you employ a good manager...
Can we not just put one of these Bruce out threads on a sticky, to stop the same theme being written 20 times every day?
