You don’t know who Ivor Cummins is? Jesus Fingy, he’s an Irish engineer who likes to get attention by mouthing off on health issues. Genuine expert. Apparently the ability to upload a little video of yourself onto YouTube is now more convincing than a lifetime of study and research, as long as what you say is the view of a tiny minority. They have a perfect right to share their views of course, but that doesn’t make them credible. Woody, have you shared the Great Barrington Declaration yet? https://www.wired.co.uk/article/great-barrington-declaration-herd-immunity-scientific-divide
Fin, this is from the British Medical Association's own website... And this was back in July, so the numbers would be even worse now. Doctors tell of patients being neglected and their condition worsening as BMA research indicates millions of patients in England have had surgery and appointments cancelled due to Covid. Research by the BMA concludes that over a million planned operations and treatments as well as over twenty thousand cancer treatments have been cancelled or delayed between April and the end of June this year because of the pandemic. The Association’s research also estimates that more than two and a half million first time outpatient appointments were cancelled during the same time period. https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-ce...rgery-and-appointments-cancelled-due-to-covid
Woody, I respect what the vast majority of experts are saying. I have an underlying illness and wouldn't last pissing time if I got covid. We need the restrictions in place to protect as many people as possible. I am not willing to be a sacrificial lamb so I have no interest in what they say. Protect everybody is the right way of dealing with this.
I haven’t read about it yet, will do later. Are you suggesting that the challenges of the government policies are not from credible individuals?
I've never said that the virus wasn't real Col. At worse I once questioned whether it exists in the sense of its severity. The definition of a hoax is a falsehood deliberately fabricated to masquerade as the truth. I was implying that it's a political hoax as opposed to anything else. Like you, I think there are a lot of questions regarding the situation and for some reason, the people in the position to ask them aren't asking them.
Some, like Cummins, are definitely not credible. Others have, fairly, alternative opinions to the great majority of their scientific colleagues. Who knows, they might be right. Read the Declaration. Then read the comments on it. Just because something chimes with your (or my) worldview doesn’t make it right. I am hardly an apologist for the government myself Woody.
Thats fair enough 999's. Everybody deserves timely health care treatment. If any government can't provide it, time to get a government who can. In the meantime, vulnerable people need to be protected too.
I don't understand why they closed the Nightingale hospitals. They could've treated the Covid patients there and reopened the NHS to everyone else so it could return to a degree of normality.
Not enough trained staff mate. The Nightingale hospitals were there for Armageddon, people would have been sent there for housing until self recovery or death, not expert treatment, at least not if they were operating at full capacity. Remember the rows of refrigerator lorries for the bodies? Our National fetish about the NHS has blinded us a bit during this event.
Why the hell should the sale of alcohol be banned in restaurants? How many more pointless, arbitrary rules can they dream up?
I'm on my way up next week, Steels. I'm going to be mightily pissed off if I can't get a bleeding drink.
Yep. He quantified his earlier post thus. Nines.....stop saying "it's ALL a hoax" mate and we won't get the wrong end of the stick.
Fair enough mate. There were some people on the radio today, all much younger than me who tested positive for covid back in March and are now suffering all manor of health problems due to long covid. I've questioned the death rate numbers from day one and constantly flip about lockdown etc. For me, the NHS MUST be made more accessible NOW regardless of the cost etc. I do understand, though, that there are only so many doctors and nurses to go around. However, the bottom line for me is that I don't want to get it and will continue to do whatever I can to ensure that I don't whilst expecting others to do what they can not to spread the thing.
It's a good test for whether you have Covid 19 or not Stroller. if you can smell it you probably don't have it, and if you can taste it you definitely don't - just to make sure I tried the test 10 times last night and it works !
Actually it's not so unusual Finglas. In 1958 we had the Asian flu which killed around 1.1 million Worldwide (33,000 in the UK) and a decade later the Hong Kong flu which killed an estimated 1-4 million (60,000 in Germany). Very few people remember these now and there will come a time when few people remember Covid 19. The Asian flu and Hong Kong flu remain in circulation now as strains of seasonal flu ie. they mutated into milder forms, which is what will happen to Covid 19 in due course, but we don't know how long that will take, and at what point governments will feel it is safe to start getting back to normal. It sounds unbelievable now but the Woodstock music festival in 1969 took place in between two deadly waves of the Hong Kong flu. The difference is that today we have websites totting up the new infections, and death rates, and rate of hospitalizations which we didn't have then, and maybe we were better for it.
