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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Mad Dog, Oct 4, 2020.

  1. RTB

    RTB Well-Known Member

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    Hey - you can't use facts like that :emoticon-0110-tongu <laugh><laugh>
     
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  2. monty987

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    We are a striker short of promotion, but who could he bring in ?, i want to see these players get past defenders, shove their way through, one two's now and again, and stop hoofing the ball into the pen area.
     
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  3. Sunderpitt

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    Fair point... freed up some of the wage cap?
     
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  4. Sunderpitt

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    Good god sir... you have brought pertinent facts into an argument.

    Yes we desperately need a goal scorer..
     
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  5. Mad Dog

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    Not one of our current strikers will get anywhere near the amount you’ve mentioned. Point still stands.
     
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  6. Nordic

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    Is that the footballing equivalent of a sandwich short of a picnic?
     
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  7. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    Maybe, but you still haven't explained how that's Parky's fault? It was almost certainly impossible to offload Wyke and Grigg as we are overpaying both of them and with Covid nobody in this league can afford to take them off our hands. Evidently, we were strapped for cash as we paid nothing for Graham.

    So tell me, which free agent striker on low wages should Parkinson have signed to guarantee us 15+ goals?
     
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  8. Ozzymac

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    Well i guess i better pull up the stats for clubs that had 15-20 goal strikers that didn't get promoted.

    It'll take some time but i'll get back to you.

    On a different note, anything positive to say about us being unbeaten in our first 4 matches?
     
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  9. Ozzymac

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    2019/20
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    It appears that there are quite a few teams that have 15-20 a season goal scorers that don't get promoted as well.

    Glad i proved your point. I can keep going for you if you'd like Mr pessimist
     
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  10. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

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    Mad to think that a couple of years ago Wyke, Grigg and Graham scored 46 goals between them in this league. What are we doing to the poor buggers to stifle them so badly.
     
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  11. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    FWIW I think Graham will get goals once he’s match sharp. I think you can see there’s a better player than there is in the other 2.
     
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  12. polyphemus

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    It is said that we learn from experience.

    Well, I've been doing this supporting thing for over 70 years now, so what might I have learnrned.

    One of the things is that the 'revolving door policy', much loved by the owners of SAFC over recent years, just doesn't work.
    No doubt if we try it often enough it will eventualy come up with a winner, but by then we may be a none league side.

    But for reasons that elude me it still remains the answer, irrespective of what might be wrong, as far as some Fans go.

    Bless Them.:emoticon-0106-cryin
     
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  13. Nacho

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    Yeah he looks to have more quality and I don't think he's as mentally fragile either, he's experienced and he worked his backside off for us the first time around despite getting absolutely no joy. Just needs a bit of time to get into the groove and he'll pick up his fair share of goals.

    God knows what to do with Grigg, couple of months in a Tibetan monastery so he can find himself maybe.
     
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  14. Mad Dog

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    He’s now had 2 windows to address this, it’s so evident to everyone apart from Parky that we need need pace and power. Look at the Bristol Rovers lad who tore us a new one on the opening game of the season, how is it that other teams seem able to pick these players out and we can’t? There are plenty of loan options available if you look in the right places, but we seem to settle for the same plodders that we have done for years.
     
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  15. Eye Ball Paul

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    For me it is the ****e defensive tactics that Parkinson deploys, be interesting to see his stats when he got Bolton promoted out of this piss pot league
     
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  16. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    These players you mention that are so readily available (seemingly) Who? at a low cost when Parkinson seemingly doesn't have much of a budget. Do you think loan signings are free? "If you're in the right place" - The North East is notoriously difficult as a place to get players to.

    Give me a list of players who have what you want who would've signed for us. Just because they didn't doesn't mean we didn't try to get them by the way. Unless you know that too

    Do you mean Ayunga? If so, he has less goals this season than Wyke. He also came from non-league and was a complete unknown. You think we should've signed him based on watching him have 3 runs against us and 0 shots on target. Also based on a non league career which boasts 36 goals in 123 games. #Prolific
     
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  17. Mad Dog

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    Why are you asking me for? I don’t get paid to scout these players. If I was getting paid for it however, I can guarantee I’d easily find a few players who would be an upgrade on the dinosaurs we have upfront currently for a fraction of the price. Wtf do our scouts do exactly? We are no better off than we were last season, and in fact we are even worse considering we’ve lost McLaughlin in goal.
     
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  18. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    And there it is. I’m asking you as, the way you speak, you’re “one of those” who states “there must be x y or z” without any actual knowledge. You say I guarantee I’d find them yet you have no idea whether there’s anyone there. You have zero idea. Same as I don’t. You’re assuming and no more. IMO doubt there’s anyone available within the budget.

    You’re a typical “miserable clapper” who knows everything but actually knows nothing.

    You want the lad from Bristol who has been average at best on non league because he did ok against us. I researched and his record was poor before Bristol and he’s got less than Wyke this season in all competitions.

    McLaughlin was poor last season. Cost a lot of goals.
     
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  19. Mad Dog

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    So you are telling me there isn’t one single player out there available that isn’t an upgrade on what we already have? Do me a favour ffs. We are lazy in the transfer market and have been since the prem days. The fact with the Bristol rovers lad is he is unpredictable and can run at people and create chances from nothing. Who do we have upfront who is remotely like that?? Also to say we haven’t downgraded in the goalkeeping department is laughable. McLaughlin didn’t have the best of starts, but was fantastic for the best part of it. That wouldn’t suit your argument though would it.
     
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  20. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    No I didn’t say that. What I said was I don’t know. How tough is that to understand. Much like you don’t. You once again say ffs do he a favour. As if you know they are there with zero investigation or evidence. I have none either but, unlike you, am willing to give the manager a chance after a decent start. McLaughlin was poor last season. The season before he was top notch. I don’t make stuff up to suit my argument.
    Show me where I said we didn’t downgrade the GK? Seems you’re making stuff up again. I just said McLaughlin was poor last season. Which he was imo. Burge is not as good. Not yet sure about Matthews.
     
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