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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I’m not sure I get that, done his badges, learned under saf, highly decorated career, could at least have a chat with the fella surely
     
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  2. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Well
     
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  3. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I think he was talking about the last time it came up vince
     
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  4. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Ohh cheers
     
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  5. rowley

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    This is the thing though. True, he did not pick the team, ( though he picked the bloody centre forward), but the bit he was really responsible for he completely messed up.

    Anyone can make "cuts" . It's doing them without defenestrating the business that shows ability. He couldn't do that, and hired a group of talentless mates or acquaintances to do important jobs.

    By far the worst owner in our history, and one of the worst that any league club has been forced to endure.

    We were truly cursed to have him turn up here.
     
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  6. Guinness Guzzler

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    You'd have thought so like. Especially since the Rooney rule is in place in the EFL so they'd have had to speak to at least one BAME candidate. Not sure how many others would be better qualified than Yorke in terms of people we could actually attract.
     
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  7. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    I think sol Campbell threw his kangol in the ring?
     
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  8. MACKEMLAD1973

    MACKEMLAD1973 Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the real world Yorkie lad.
    Loadsa people apply for jobs and never hear anything. And I mean thousands of people.
    Why should footy be any different.
     
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  9. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    We are talking about Donald tho right? I doubt he spoke to anybody other than Ross once he’s established he’s his first choice. And he doesn’t seem thorough enough to respond to candidates.
     
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  10. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    A combination of these
     
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  11. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    ahh reet...no one will belive me here but i honestly never saw that one, or 'debbie does dallas' feck, even 'animal farm' escaped me along with most of the banned video nasties, i did watch 'i spit on your grave' but figured if the others were similar it was pointless watching them...i preferred a night in a pub or finding a real female to help me empty my sack.
     
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  12. samwise_new

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    haway lads, SD and his marras came in at the right time (or so it seemed back then) we all knew he did not have the nous or the money to take us back to the premier but we REALLY wanted Mr Short to sell...remember, he stopped putting money into the club, SD saw, for him and his mates, the chance of a pretty fast turn around in fortunes for the club then they could sell, make a few million and move on...unfortunately, nothing worked out as we all thought it would, while we were all worried that the trend of being ****e might continue, i reckon we mostly thought with the team we had we would win the league at a canter, get confidence in the squad again and all would look far rosier...so we cannot blame SD for thinking the same.

    his failure was not preparing for things to not work out, i honestly do not think he was thinking about a 2nd (and deffo not a 3rd) season in div 3 yet here we are, a LOT of the blame can be laid squarely at his door, he DID fail in what he set out to do...i will stop short of calling him a failure as although he was 'gifted' his money he has managed to buy into two clubs along the way and still has money we would dream about (imho, a complete failure would have blown the lot in no time at all, it has happened before) so all in all he made some massive mistakes and the sooner we get someone in who knows theright type of people to employ the better.
     
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  13. Dancingstripes

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    No managerial experience.

    No knowledge of the league.

    Has no substancial coaching experience.

    Donald to blame, should have brought someone in who knows how to get out of the league.

    Are all of the things you would be reading on here if he failed and got sacked.
     
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  14. C19RK73

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    Gus, pdc and keano spring to mind
     
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    I'm pretty bloody sure we would have had an attack minded team with better forwards if he had got the job.
     
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  16. Millfield Maestro 1879

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    Maybe because in the real world thousands apply for one job, but in football and in this case there was less than 10 applicants and allegedly the only one not hear anything either way was black
     
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    its peaks and troughs with this takeover mind, I reckon Charlie is playing us like a fiddle
     
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  18. 6inarow

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    Simon Jordan always states it on the button, 'Equal opportunity doesn't necessarily mean equal outcome, talent should always be the deciding factor'
     
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  19. Ozzymac

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    Well that's not quite what was said is it?

    He said that he never heard anything back, do you know for certain that no on else got no response at all? I'm thinking not.

    Standard protocol in recruiting is that the employer will say that only short listed candidates will receive a response. I'm guessing that he heard nothing back because he wasn't short listed rather than the fact that he's black.
     
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  20. Millfield Maestro 1879

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    He said in an interview that his belief was he never heard back for 2 reasons. Because of his race and his lack of experience. He accepted the lack of experience but pointed to other managers in same boat who at least were allowed an interview to sell their ideas.

    FWIW I cant see how he remotely even had a chance of getting the job regardless of race
     
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