I'm stuck somewhere in the middle. A wishy washy ****er like the government if you like. I agree with everything stated above but if we just let this virus go through then those figures would be far higher and people would literally be left to die at home in their beds helplessly. The one thing that has annoyed me is the constant scaremongering by the media. It's been a disgrace and they should be held accountable.
I wonder if Orta is finishing his window shopping in Holland because Tuen Koopmeiners the AZ Alkmar captain and midfield general along with the Utrecht flyer Kerk would finish off a damn good Summer as it stands we havent had Pablo this season yet (45mins) and wont be getting him back until after the next International break. We need better than Roberts but yet again he has an open door to show us what he can do, not just bits and pieces when he feels like it
I was of the opinion at the beginning of the window that a Pablo replacement was the key signing for us this window. Essentially everybody is aware that Pablo is fantastic but not as nimble on his feet as he once was, who is? If we can get De Paul and he is Bielsa's choice then lets dig a bit deeper, sell a couple of fringe players and make it happen. A playmaker is the key to getting the components working and we are probably just this one position short of a competitive side. That's my rant over
Decided its not fair on families if Koopmeiners signs as a shirt will be much cheaper than the letters for the back
I get your point but I just think that the reaction has been over the top and out of proportion. What is the overarching strategy? Eradicate the virus? No chance. Eradicate death from society? Impossible. It affects the most, the same people as seasonal flu (also a coronavirus) but we don’t shut the world down every winter. I don’t know why we as a nation have become so scared of everything, probably the messages being pumped out in the media. In recent weeks there has been more deaths from suicide than Covid. I know that it’s an emotive subject and some people vehemently disagree with my opinion but I’m a boring data person and the evidence of that is it is not as fatal as first feared. You can get it and never know.
Depends how old you are, most 70+ year old are happy with restrictions, in fact most want more done on restrictions. Someone posted more flu deaths, that's totally wrong, UK flu deaths is normally between 4,000 and 22,000 a year, so we are currently twice as bad as a very bad flu season, and 10 times as bad as a good flu season, but don't forget the lockdown, would have been probably hundreds of thousands more without. On a normal year, you try and get someone a place in a care home [very difficult] this year,many care homes are empty, that many have died,my lad does furniture removals, probably 30/40% of his work this year is taking furniture out of care homes, due to covid deaths. People keep saying but most had underlying health problems, for you young ones, most people over 50 have an underlying health condition.
Honestly, I'm quite in line with what you are saying. My only gripe with that is that we have a vaccine for the flu. It still kills thousands a year but that figure would be much higher if there wasn't a vaccine available. Wasn't it a couple of years ago that we had a 'bad flu year' where 15k died. That wasn't a bad flu. That was a vaccine that didn't work too well. So when the vaccine isn't quite on point then deaths rise substantially. With covid, we don't have a vaccine so this would be a 'very bad covid year'. Hopefully we can all do our bit to keep it as low as we can without shutting everything down and get a vaccine for next year. The vaccine won't stop thousands a year dying but it will give us some protection. Covid will end up like flu. Most people won't get vaccinated every year, just the old and vulnerable and the rest of us can crack on and build immunity naturally. Unfortunately that can't happen this year as it would overwhelm the services. Its a balancing act. Like I say, I am a wishy washy sit on the fence kinda guy on this. Apart from the media scaremongering. I also think we should take this to the coronavirus thread and keep this football related. ???
Confused? Says the guy replying with 2 identical quotes? The answers are well known & avoided in the UK. If you're that interested, have a look at the leadership from the NZ PM.
Don't tell me - you're a hippy that lives off grid, lives on organic veggies grown by yourself, and turn everything possible into a conspiracy theory, hence your hobby of joining in any riot, sorry, demonstration that you can fit into your empty diary. You're insulting those who have died, and their close ones too. And of course, the growing number of people who have been incapacitated in an unfortunate spectrum are obviously all malingerers. No, the second wave is definitely amongst us. Perhaps you'll only realise when someone close is affected.
So what do you think should be done? That flu data isn’t right by the way, go on ONS site, 16-18 thousand deaths every year. Totally agree about the 70+ age group fear and they are the people that should be shielded. I’ve already said about death in care homes, disastrous decision to empty hospitals into them. But again co-morbidity deaths, not just from Covid (that was another debate, dying of or with Covid). I’m well into my 50’s, don’t think I have any underlying health issues (as you say who knows) but if this is how we’re expected to live our lives, too scared of living cos we’re too scared of dying, might as well put me in a care home.
You’re right. No more comment from me. See I said that we needed mid-week games, maybe we should have stayed in the championship
Had we lost out to Brentford last season in the promotion race perhaps we would be playing Millwall today - come on the Bees
Do you have any preference for the care home ? As you should have realised by now, you can't shield old people, Doctors, Nurses and young care workers, take it into the homes. They should give you a health waver then, if you get covid and need hospital venting, you pay the £50/100,000 and compensation to the people who die because there is no hospital beds left.
On this virus bollox as I’m in the people over 60 with underlying health condition and have been shielded. I have cancer and have been fighting it for 5 years now and this time its much harder. Over 1,000 people every week get cancer and need a diagnosis but at best only a third are getting to see a doctor and then waiting for a referral to see a specialist. We are on course to see a massive increase in cancer deaths this year. Its the same for stroke victims, heart attacks, dementia and more. Every week sees huge rises in non covid deaths but our media carry on with scare stories without doing their jobs and flagging up whats really happening. Hospitals are empty as everyone kicked out for covid, these places are still mostly empty as the NHS bangs on about a second wave.
They are empty now, we need to try and keep them that way, so we can start the catch up for other illnesses, they weren't empty in May, which is why 1,000 a day were dying not the 30/40 of present. I had an Aunty who was left to die after a stroke due to no intensive care beds, all being used by covid patients.
Stay in the best of health Doc. You’re right to point out that all other illnesses seem to be overlooked. A very humbling post.
