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The only way to get out of the £40 billion divorce bill is to completely scrap the Withdrawal Agreement (WA). It was an agreement to talk about a trade deal and Olly Robbins let Barnier treat him like a doormat. So if we end up with no deal, we still have to pay the divorce bill unless the EU dishonour the terms of the WA and it becomes legally void.

 

Ive not long been back from Turkey and you would barely know covid was anything there, people just getting on with their lives as per normal. I would say 10% with a face mask is the only way you would notice anything out of the norm. No problems with entry, no quarantine or test.
Im off to Africa in a couple of weeks time and they want a negative pcr certificate within 96hrs before you enter produced at the point of entry. So, i have been online checking this out and they are around £150. Now the ridiculous thing is you could send in anyones swab, they then email you the certificate. The pdf certificate you simply print off, you can quite easily change the name using any pc software and share it if you so wished. Crazy.

 

Africa seems a strange place to visit during a Global pandemic.

Good luck !

 

I managed to read your first sentence.

what you seem to overlook is that Boris Johnson signed the withdrawal agreement and was elected as PM on the promise of an oven ready Brexit.

1. Shouldn’t he have been a bit more careful when signing such an important document - had your friend Corbin done similar we would never hear the end of it on here

3. I take it the oven ready deal is a load of rubbish then. - as I have continually said on here he is a liar.

 

I might be wrong here but I'm pretty sure he lives there for a big part of the year. Mal can speak for himself so I'm sure he can correct me if I'm wrong

 

Not enough light in the Steveo man cave for reading and certainly no light at the cave entrance for Remainers. Obviously only odd numbers allowed in the fantasy new normal world.

He had an ‘oven ready’ Withdrawal Agreement and it got passed through Parliament once he had a majority.

There is going to be no extension beyond 31st December as the deadline for extensions passed in July. We can walk away on WTO terms any time that we like if the obdurate EU stick to demands about which we have no intention of making concessions for a trade deal.

 

Piers Morgan back on form on GMB this morning talking about the deluded pandemic deniers.

“when will you get it into your thick heads that the pandemic should be taken seriously”

 

I don't think the issue is pandemic deniers it's more pandemic panickers. I live in an area that is supposedly under one of these extra local lockdown restrictions. The council area has around 490,000 people. Since the start of this pandemic there have been 330 covid related deaths. And we need local lockdown because we're allegedly amongst the worst areas. Doesn't stand out as a disaster really with those figures. The focus has all changed now though hasn't it. Was all about saving lives before but now they panic over how many people just catch it. Obviously there are more positive tests as there is a lot more testing being done now. Death figures aren't on the rise though. And that only gets reported when we have a minor spike in deaths. It's going to be part of our lives for a long time, let's just crack on. Protect those we know its more dangerous to and stop flapping about every little case or outbreak. There was a confirmed case at my kids school last week. It's going to happen. The world doesn't have to stop

 

You still don’t get it.
Remember back to February ?
Cases were going up then too, we just didn’t know due to lack of testing.

then the hospitalisations start (the number of COVID patients in Birmingham hospitals has doubled in a week for example) it is about a month after that the deaths start occurring in greater numbers.

I posted a couple of weeks ago that this month would’ve quite quiet, but this is still the critical month to prevent another spike.
Why don’t people understand this!!!!

I must admit I’m more worried than I was about the second wave due to the test and trace system STILL in complete chaos.
Odds on a full lockdown again the way things are going.

 

I'm not the one who doesn't get it. Flappers like yourself are the problem. Escalating everything and blowing it all out of proportion. Even at its peak earlier this year we never got the bodies piled in the streets, ice rinks being used for storage and that's not to even mention all of the hospitals that called staff in and paid them to sit around or the nightingale hospitals that were never used. I get that different areas and different hospitals had different experiences. My brother had to go to hospital in an ambulance 3 times (not covid related) during the peak and I had to take one of my kids to A&E during the peak also and the hospital in my so called problem area was empty. Literally had doctors and nurses waiting around to treat people. I know people who have worked in areas where its being bad so I'm fully aware some areas are worse it than others but as I've said all along a lot of media hype causing this and people like yourself panicking and buying into it.

This so called second wave that's coming isn't a second wave at all, its just a continuation of something that's here already. But let's give it a sinister sounding label to fan the flames of panic amongst the public.

Do people need to hold raves or go out protesting. Not at all. But there's no reason why people can't start going back into the office if required or getting back to some sort of normal. Procedures are in place by businesses. If people don't want to follow them then there isn't a lot we can do about that.

 

I am not flapping, I am just pointing out the reality of the situation.

The "second wave" is likely to be deadlier than the first because it will be combined with the flu season.
Funny how you think that 41,000 + deaths isn't a big deal. And we are nowhere near done with this yet.
I do find it amusing how everyone suddenly seems to think things will be back to normal next year - they won't and that is when the real hardship will start in this country.

By continuing to work from home I am making it more likely that schools for example can stay open for as long as possible.
It is noticeable that only bungling Boris is encouraging workers to go back to the offices. Nicola Sturgeon and the Welsh First Minister are saying the opposite.

 

There have been confirmed cases our my grandson's college also (and another nearby). Friday's football training and Saturday's match cancelled. It is inevitable that plenty of people will contract it and some will die; it's contagious.

I do not recall in all my lifetime having to wear a mask in a shop. I would have thought it was a robber. And having to wear them all day is unbearable.

I've had a sore throat and coughing for days now. If you don't see me posting; you'll know I've copped it

 

Global leaders built it up to be far more than than they should have. No more serious than seasonal flu. Anyone with half a brain knows this whole saga has been totally blown out of proportion.

So they have now left themselves in a predicament were they cannot back down.

Hence, we have had all this bs for the last 6 months.

 

but all that is just not true.
I really don’t understand what the problem is with people in this country.

we just increasingly come across as a bunch of uneducated morons, whether it is this or Brexit.

as for backing down, if anything restrictions will have to be made tighter to keep people like yourself in check.

 

Keep living in your bubble.

 

i will thanks.

understandable that you are in denial - quite a normal reaction.

 

He's not in denial, he just doesnt have his blinkers on.

 

Your tenacity and patience are commendable

 

More palpable nonsense from the Steveo cave...

The flu season happens every winter. There were around 11,000 deaths last year. Are desperate plague sensationalisers like you going to add every death for any reason to the numbers just to fan the flames of hysteria?

Is anybody keeping a count of how many people died of something other than the plague because the whole NHS stopped bothering about anything else?

Nearly half of the 41,000 death toll so far can be traced back to the NHS dumping bed blockers in care homes instead of ring-fencing the vulnerable on day one.

 

I know I should just shut up and leave it. I probably should just stop looking in on this particular thread. Apologies for those having to put up with my ramblings on here