I hope I'm wrong, but... The crucial event may have been LIverpool Leeds yesterday. Leeds demonstrated what Spurs should be. It was almost inevitable that Mourinho would then demonstrate what Spurs should not be. But he threw in a big addition, subbing Sissoko for Dele. What fan would have wanted that? How does it ever make sense to bring on Sissoko for Dele in a game you aren't leading? My theory is that what doomed Pochettino was making moves that were both disastrous and inexplicable: namely, repeatedly bringing Kane back too early, when the team had put together an impressive streak without him.
Pretty much echo what everyone else has to say. I know it’s only the first game, however it was a fresh start and a chance to put last season behind us. Despite a clean slate, I didn’t see any signs of fight, hunger or planning yesterday. Again. That’s what’s bothered me the most. we don’t look like we’ve progressed at all during Jose’s period at the helm. If we have top 4 aspirations Dier is not strong enough to be a first choice CB, and as others have said, Toby isn’t the player he once was. And to be honest I’m not a huge fan of Sanchez, even though I know many of you rate him very highly. Our CB options worry me this season, especially if our plan is to play on the counter. It’s no good if we haven’t got top quality in front of Hugo to prevent us conceding. Beyond that, I’m not sure what we do in midfield and up front. It’s just a mix of too many passengers, a lack of quality and absolutely no creativity whatsoever. 1 striker and 1 creative midfielder are the absolute minimum we need, and I’m not even sure that’ll be enough. - if that’s all we manage to sign, they need to be top quality players who will genuinely lift the team. (I’d take Eriksen back in a heartbeat, and we should be going all out for Bale, as well as someone to complement/partner/rotate with Kane. No disrespect to Everton, but I genuinely can’t remember the last time they beat us. We were outplayed yesterday. And I don’t think they will be the only ones to do so if we carry on like this. IMO we’re a team without and identity, and we’re found out too easily, which is massively corcerning.
Did I say we were all agreed! While that was a dreadful performance by Spurs and of course a big disappointment after the build up by Amazon and media suggesting we had made top signings. to write off the season and the manager on the basis of one game is way over the top. I see all the usual opinions trotted out as if they are somehow vindicated by one game. People have their opinion position and just interpret that game to suit. My opinion position is that it takes more than one game to make such decisions and it's clear that some people don't want Jose while others do, some rate Dele and others don't. If you ignore how we finished last season to make your argument for disaster stick that's up to you, personally I remember our defence looking more secure and the results were coming to the extent that apparently we were fourth in post covid break. There is no reason why we should not get to that level with this squad and once our new signings get a chance we might even better it. Long season ahead, almost laughable to be making doom and gloom predictions on the one game. 2 points from 8 games yes we will have a problem but I'll reserve my opinion for a bit. :
Personally , I think Toby is past it Mentally and physically he’s a yard slower and it’s been showing for a very long time tbh
very true...the Jose narrative is taking shape. it’s a shame the Spurs fans have already wrote the man off due to the popular opinions of others. This is his first full season, he hasn’t even been here 1 calendar year. what if a section of the fan base does this with every appointment? We will definitely not get anywhere. I think it’s has shown a lot of the Spurs faithful in a bad light tbh. Not just on here...I mean across social media, that we let the man’s reputation precede him. Personally he looks like a man that is trying to enjoy his job at Spurs but he’s not getting that back. 1 game...just shows that it’s going to just get worse with every dropped point. Just playing entertaining football all the time isn’t enough. Poch had 6 years to deliver zero silverware, Jose deserves time. One of the biggest reasons I am glad fans are not allowed back into stadiums and long may it continue...we don’t need their negativity filling the atmosphere when the man is trying to do his job with a limited squad
I'm disappointed with yesterday's performance but with games coming up thick and fast I'm gonna judge jose after the next few weeks if we get knocked out of league cup and the ropey and our league form hasn't picked up then jose will get both barrels.i listened on the radio to the Everton game and it sounded dreadful so I feel sorry for you lot having to endure watching that. I was screaming at the radio firstly with team he picked and the subs he made I just couldn't understand it.
mate you think we are coming out of this glut of games unscathed? so far looking at the squad...Kane is starting every game...he already looks knackered yesterday
The calls for Jose to be sacked are very minimal. The amount calling for him to be sacked is likely similar to the same as those calling for ENIC out, they make the most noise but they don’t represent a majority because most of the criticism stems from lies or fake facts. However that doesn’t mean the likes of ENIC/ Levy/ Jose can’t be criticised and after that **** show yesterday that’s what they all deserve, as do those on the pitch. What I get frustrated with - and this isn’t just with Jose, Poch was even worse for it - is that for the last couple of years we’ve persisted with the same **** that’s delivered us less and less yet little is done to rectify it. The manager(s) should be binning some of these to the U23s just like Danny Rose has been and the board should then be finding the first available buyer. Instead though they’re often in the XI or the matchday squad most weeks. How is it that players like Toby, Dier, Sissoko, Winks, Dele, Lucas, Lamela etc still play for this football club? They’ve all either seen their best days or delivered nothing on a regular basis and yet they’ve remained in and around the XI for far too long. What worries me is that two of those players have signed new contracts (Toby & Dier) and one appears to be very much loved by the manager (Lucas) that it seems to be obscuring their proper judgement with selection. I very much think we still have enough quality in this squad - which will hopefully be added too before the window shuts - to get a top six finish and hopefully a pot of some sort but we really need to start binning the absolute dross off. Persisting with the same failing players will not suddenly turn out a success.
Yes, we’ve got some great quality at the club. Kane, Son, Bergwijn, Lo Celso, Ndombele if he can fit, the new boys should add more, Tanganga when fit will hopefully have even more involvement than last season, Sessegnon deserves more game time, there should be chances for the likes of Clarke, White and Cirkin in the near future. Two or so more signings will also make a huge difference. Persisting with the same dross however won’t make a difference.
a lot of bang average in that squad living off the romanticism of yester year. We aren’t brave enough to sell players at the ‘right time’...we have a habit of wanting to rinse every ounce of football out of Poch’s golden boys. Someone needs to face the reality of the fact that we require a proper re build with focus. Not get drip fed a bargain basement buy then expected to hit the dizzy heights of top 4...it’s like the squad has been weakening in front of us for the last 3 years. our ambitions are reflected by the way in which we are lacking vigour and purpose in recruitment
I definitely agree and that’s what Jose and Levy need to do. In fairness to Poch/ Levy that’s exactly what they done when Poch started and I want Jose to do similar. Back when Poch initially took over, look how many got dusted from the team in the early stages - Adebayor, Kaboul, Capoue, Lennon, Paulinho, Naughton, Holtby and probably more I’ve not listed. Jose needs to do that, be that ruthless guy he’s got the reputation for. He obviously needs the help of Levy to get this done just like Poch did but we really do need to **** off so many of these players in the coming weeks and months. It’s tiresome seeing the same underperforming players getting selected in high priority games.
We are undefeated in the last seven games that Winks and Sissoko started! We do much worse if they don't start.
Not really sure he is written off tbf. Most of the criticism about yesterday was aimed at a terrible performance by the players. I query some of his decisions but he is not responsible for the lack of everything shown on the pitch yesterday.
I think he is responsible because his job is to motivate and get the best from them. yesterday he clearly failed.
would we have been upset if it was 0-0 yesterday? I would have taken that against Everton on the opening day. No way should their player get inbetween Toby and Dier to win that header from a standing position. On paper I bet them two along with Kane are the best header’s of the ball in our team. I refuse to believe set pieces are not practiced. Infact I know they have been highlighted as a weakness in our team by Jose. Yet...come kick off..the brains go to mush it seems. Something I noticed in the Amazon documentaries...thank god for half time team talks because it’s as though these players have a low concentration bar and need to be reminded of their focus. when the whistle goes it’s down to the players. Yes people can lambast the tactics but we didn’t get pasted 3-0 by HT and get totally dominated, then I’d question the tactics...Everton had plenty ball but minimal impact. a 1 nil defeat to another dead ball goal in which the players have lost their man easily is just the same old from the same old players. It was a poor goal to concede and avoidable, it really was.
Its not just one game though is it? This team has been on the decline since the beginning of 2019, unfortunately a lot of the new signings haven’t been able to find form or just aren’t as good as we hoped. Also some of the established players are on the decline and then there is some that are just not good enough. Needed a big rebuild this summer but as many suspected this never happened and instead Spurs went for basic, solid options in Doherty and Hojbjerg. Like I said yesterday, this is a bang average mid table team (bar 2 players) now and Spurs won’t be troubling the top 6 unless something dramatic happens
Your pro Jose agenda is stronger than anyone’s anti Jose agenda. Be honest, Jose had a mare yesterday and if you’re really honest, he has made some weird decisions and selections since he’s been manager. Please explain the Sissoko for Dele sub as nearly 24 hours on and I’m still baffled by it.
