Off Topic The Politics Thread

It's reported in more than one newspaper. In my view, it would be justification for what the UK is doing.

Even if he did not mention ban, but threatened to use the EU's discretion to put tariffs on all UK goods coming to NI, that would be bad faith too, since the discretion was intended to apply to "at risk" products and although this is not defined, it was clearly intended to be an exception not the rule.

 

Great, good to know that unattributed quotes in pro-Government newspapers are enough justification for breaking international law. I wish I was surprised at the completely ridiculous contortion, but there we go.

 

And johnson needs to be sacked too for signing something he negotiated but couldnt be arsed reading.

 

I think it's gone beyond that to be honest mate. A lot of remainers I know have truly lost interest in it all. They are just watching the government lurch from one **** up to another. This is a brexiteers doing and problem, nobody else's.

 

Exactly this. Some people cant see the woods for the trees unfortunately

 

The WA is a bare bones agreement. It relies on the good faith of both parties in implementing it. There seems a marked lack of good faith from Michel Barnier. Presumably he knows he personally is in the last chance saloon and could be sidelined, and he is getting desperate

 

Col, seriously what is going through your head pal. Brexit is happening. This isnt about remainers wanting the decision reversed, it's about an incompetent PM negotiating an agreement, signing it and telling us it's the bees knees, then he actually looks at the ****ing thing and decides it's not! Where does a remain voter come into that???

 

Oh I thought it was a signed agreement by two parties. Silly me.

 

You can breach a signed agreement, Bob

 

Goldy, surely you can admit that Johnson and co have just ****ed up. It's that simple. Remember the hysteria over '3 days is long enough to scrutinise the agreement' in parliment by the likes of Gove and co. Well obviously it wasnt.

 

Of course you can and usually get fined or punished in doing so, not to mention that people would think twice about agreeing anything with you in the future!

 

Theyve ****ed up, pure and simple. No attention to detail. But blame remainers and the EU as the narrative is being rustled up. Pathetic really. Just hold your hands up and man up Johnson

 

Right, so the EU have breached the agreement by lack of good faith. They're in trouble. Incidentally, it's not the first time. They've disregarded a number of rulings against them from the WTO on steel, aluminium, Airbus etc

 

How have they breached it exactly?

 

They subsidised Airbus and were sanctioned the WTO. They ignored it. Look it up

 

Did that break the withdrawal agreement that was signed?

 

It's an example of EU hypocrisy

 

Did it or did it not break the withdrawal agreement signed with by Johnson?

 

What may have breached the WA is lack of good faith by the EU negotiators, making threats that contradict the spirit and intent of terms in the WA re exports from the UK to NI

 

What threats were made and by whom? Any direct quotes regarding these? I genuinely ask mate as I've not seen any.