No. Asymptotic infection is meaningless, according to the article Kiwi posted, and has never counted in the past. What’s different this time?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mb1l Listen from about 1hr 5 mins. Radio presenter vs scientist. Pretty much sums up the state of British media.
Sorry, that’s the one I meant. Yes, read most of it, but will read again later properly. Have a listen to that bbc radio programme I linked above. It’s a 6/7 minute interview, we’ll worth a listen.
No, what I'm concerned about is the government passing laws that restrict my freedom for no good reason.
exactly, most people have gone back to normal life and now the government are getting desperate. They don't want people to pass it on but are happy to pass it on as long as you are keeping the economy running. One things for sure, if you are going anwhere, remember to go with your fake ill child at the back
Rubbish... The evidence shows that people are not respecting the guidelines and the government is acting. Once again they can't do right by some. Take off your anti-government glasses and see what is actually happening? This time they are doing the right thing.
Bloody hell watch out Boris has given powers to local councils to employ 'Grasses' Big Brother is watching you!
i'm just saying they should probably leave everything open and have everything back to normal imo. this ****'s been going on for too long. Anyway, being bought up as a tory then it's in the interest of the majority to get things back to normal rather than wait for a miracle vaccine
I'm ****ing outraged at this new law, which I judge to be completely over the top. I intend to break it at as I choose and hope that the majority will do likewise.
They are acting a bit differently nowadays. I want things back to normal... really, I hate all this 2222. I miss the Rangers/Theatre/Opera/cinema/festivals/art galleries/museums/pubs/Lidl (I like to play spot the normal person) but non of these will really come back until this disease is gone or so low it makes no difference. I have said all along that there won't be a vaccine and only yesterday I heard that something like 7% of the tests are not accurate (Keep away from Watford for a bit). I agree I want to see stuff open but it comes back to using common sense. Those charts today showed exactly what I think we all knew in that a lot of younger people are getting slack or had enough and can't be bothered?
Pretty clear to me. People, especially the under 40s, can't be trusted to go to pubs and restaurants whilst adhering to the guidelines. The infection rate and death rate is climbing. Schools and work placed have social distancing in place with managers etc ensuring it happens.
Thing is mate, I've flip flopped on the whole thing since day one. Is it just another flu or is it more dangerous etc. There was a debate on the radio today between two experts. One said that covid is no worse than seasonal flu and that we should just get on with everything. The other expert, an specialist in infectious diseases said that was a scandalous thing to say on national radio and that covid is extremely dangerous. Look at Kate Garraway's husband for example, who is a similar age to me with no health issues. He's been in a coma for months. If there's a chance that could happen to me or mine I'm probably going to continue to be cautious. Who the **** do we trust to be right?
I'd definitely take the cautious approach. There's too much evidence, some I've heard first hand, that Covid can do enormous and long term damage. It's not like flu
Why not just put all the under-40s in jail? Oh no wait, we need the selfish bastards to go to work and spend money in coffee shops and restaurants to keep the economy going. Just a curfew then. My brother-in-law just said that this is the first time he's felt glad he's 71 and not 21. What a sad reflection.
I think that when your brother in law was 21 we were living in a different society where some restrictive laws may not have been necessary Stroller. I'm not meaning to stir things here but laws come in when society has failed to regulate itself, and it is the whole of society which is on trial here and not the government. The fault line in our society is that we don't really have community any more and generations have grown up looking after number one first, worshipping egotism, and not knowing the meaning of solidarity. My belief is that societies of the past could have regulated things better but 40 years of neo liberalist ideology have stopped us from being able to act as a real community where everyone cared for everyone else.
With respect Cologne, I think that's bollocks. When the original lockdown came in there was almost total conformity, but many people can now see that the dangers from this virus have been massively overstated and are understandably less willing to abide by laws that they see as being too draconian. Young people are Iargely unaffected by this virus, but are expected to lock themselves away to protect old ****ers like me. I would encourage young people to do what they think is reasonable, not what the law says.
