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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

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    52.1%
  1. Butthuber

    Butthuber Well-Known Member

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    What is it all about defunding the police and all this violant BLM nonsense that has been furthered ?

    Well, this is part of this entire movement to force the elimination of all paper money and compel everyone into the digital world. There is Gate’s agenda linking his vaccines and digital IDs and then there will be passports required to even leave your home proving you are vaccinated. Then there are chips to be inserted for birth control which somehow I suspect will be subject to control by the state and a permit will be required to even have a child since Gate and his crew is obsessed with the population reduction.

    There has been an ongoing drive to create robots for the military. They have been experimenting with Nanotechnology to create the next soldier. This technology has been highly sought after. Beware the real political threat always comes from within. The future of the military and eventually police is to replace the boots on the ground with robots.

    Duke Robotics has come out now with drones that carry machine-guns years ago. This video shows really the future of war and police domestically. It has been reported that China is selling its killer robots to the Middle East. These things will simply kill every human on the battlefield. This is clearly changing the face of warfare and the serious concern is that these things will one day be deployed in civil unrest situations.

    If we have machines that enforce laws or replace soldiers in battle, this is actually the greatest wish-list governments have had for centuries. The power of any government rests upon its military to back it. Make no mistake about this, the United States has also staged exercises using the military to launch an assault on American cities. Even the EU has been conducting military/police exercises in case of civil war breaks out inside Europe.

    Therefore, to understand the true movement behind defunding the police, one must understand that they are already planning to replace local police to a large extent with robots that have no conscience and will kill on command. If the government can replace the police and military with robots, they will achieve their ultimate security against public uprisings. Merged with digital IDs and tracking as Gates has done in India, this will create the solution for the perfect totalitarian state that is not dependent upon the loyalty of the police or military. We are not there yet, but they certainly intend to be there within the years ahead.

    One does not even need AI for this goal. They can, of course, have simple tools like heat detectors to identify humans. They can add facial recognition to target specific people. They do not want an AI system that would actually allow it to override some central command directive. All of this is certainly possible right now with present technology. It does not even require futuristic fantasy to conclude where this leads decades from now. It is the ultimate power for the ultimate tyranny which they see as then invincible.

    As simple as that.
     
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  2. Staines R's

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    I agree. My two youngest (11 year olds) are really not academic in any way whatsoever and in all honesty can’t see them going to Uni (though of course things change).
    I’d much rather they learn a ‘trade’ and make a decent living that way.....but in the end that’s for them to decide I guess.
     
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    Totally mate.....the eldest got a job designing a computer game on a short term contract but after that struggled to get anymore work that related to his degree.
    The next one had a few bit parts acting and could probably of made a bit of a living doing extra work, which he got a few parts in some films, but wanted the step up....just wasn’t possible as there were too many kids chasing the same part. It’s a shame ‘cos he was really passionate about it. So that’s why he went into his next passion of boxing and seems to be doing well.
    Glad I’m not their age anymore
     
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  5. Sooperhoop

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    Big City firms like KPMG, Deloitte and the like look for top 'A' Level students they can take directly into training programmes, they pay £25-30K a year during the training process and if they come through the sky's the limit, some in their mid 20s are on £500k a year with their bonuses. I remember one I had in the cab a few years back and him telling me how he'd almost turned them down for a Uni place but after speaking to others who had come through the training changed his mind, best decision he'd ever made...
     
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    No one in the big 4 accountancy firms earns £500k in their mid 20s!

    A newly qualified c24 yo might earn £50-55k

    You'd need to be an equity partner to earn the big bucks and that is unusual before late 30s
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    We had a lot of Deloittes pickups and many of their young guys were openly bragging about their bonuses and that was quite a few years back. Mind you I'll bet they'll make a killing from the Covid fallout...
     
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    Their insolvency guys will. The corporate and business advisory stuff will suffer. But you're right, it does enable the accountants to hedge and get through bad times. Lawyers are the same. Insolvency and litigation will be money earners for a few years now.
     
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  9. Goldhawk-Road

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    The Big 4 accountancy firms have incredible training facilities. Far more useful for recruits to do hands-on auditing mixed with the theory.

    Insurance is another area where working at Lloyds Insurance Market etc from school can really pay dividends to the career. East End kids have done with for decades and produced some first class and high earning executives
     
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    think those young guys were making it up. You'd need to be at partner level to be on 500k. and if they were picked up at 18, they would be qualified by 21 which gives them 4 years to climb the ladder. I think someones telling you porkies. Accountancies don't typically give out 100% bonuses like banks from what i gather and even then i think at senior manager level your talking around 120k salaries
     
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  11. Sooperhoop

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    I must say I always thought many of them were arseholes especially after 'liquid lunches' but I suppose it goes with the territory. Still, they're earning a lot more than they're worth...
     
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    The big accountancy firms certainly don't give out anything like 100% bonuses

    If they did few members of staff would ever leave

    I trained at KPMG (many years ago!), then spent the next c30 years working for large corporates

    Wanted more flexibility and to avoid office politics so run my own consulting business now, albeit that I'm now winding down into retirement

    Definitely not short of work but love having an extended break over the summer!

    An awful lot of the work I have been doing recently has involved restructures though - not always pleasant working with people who you know may well be made redundant. I was made redundant twice during my corporate career and it can be tough for some people to bounce back, albeit that for others it is a great way to accumulate capital
     
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    whoops i meant to say do not give out.!

    edited my earlier post
     
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    Figures...<laugh>

     
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    Makes you proud.

     
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    Well, knock me down with a feather...

     
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    I would have liked that post but it really is quite disgusting and disturbing.
     
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    We can all agree with Bob that comments that seem to celebrate the death of a 16 year old boy are disgusting.

    For me, something has to be done to address why England (and it does appear to be just England) is such a draw that people are trying to leave France in a tub and a couple of shovels. The situation will only become more acute as we, here, enter a really deep economic recession.
     
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    Turns out the unfortunate 'refugee' was 28 not 16 and had been refused asylum in France. So much for the French minister saying UK was responsible. Perhaps if they didn't actively assist criminal traffickers a lot of this could be avoided...

     
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    Very sad that anyone should die in this way, be they 28 or 16 (or 22 as his family claimed)

    I'd be interested to know why France rejected his asylum application and why he thought that the outcome might be different here
     
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