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A bit of respect?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Dancingstripes, Aug 18, 2020.

  1. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    A great academy?

    How many players have come out of that and succeeded in our first team in the last 10 years?
     
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  2. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    You are right Nads, any good that Donald and Co. did initially, is far outweighed by the damage they have subsequently inflicted on the club.

    The bit I don't understand is the Academy, it almost looks like he has committed a deliberate attempt of sabotage
     
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  3. Evil Jimmy Krankie

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    Already got to the rank I want to Stewie.
     
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  4. SAFCDRUM

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    catch some real criminals man
     
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  5. Evil Jimmy Krankie

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    By real criminals you mean....?
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    What, in your opinion, was the £9m from FPP?
     
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  7. DH4

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    How about players now playing for other clubs that have come through our academy in the last 10 years? Jordan Pickford (Everton), Conor Hourihane (A.Villa), John Egan (Sheff. Utd.), Jack Colback (Newcastle), Josh Maja (Bordeaux), Bali Mumba (Norwich), George Honeyman(Hull), Alex Gorrin (Oxford), Mickael Mandron (Gillingham) All of these players are playing in the league we find ourselves in or higher. Indeed 3 are Premier league regulars and one a French 1st division player.
     
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  8. nandossonicsauce

    nandossonicsauce Well-Known Member

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    Agree on certain points. In his own words he said he will be judged on who he hands the club over to. I will wait to see and judge him on that. His intentions were good. Now we will find out if he will **** us over for his own benifit or not
     
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  9. Dancingstripes

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    I don't know what the 9m was for, I couldn't form an opinion on it.

    What's your opinion?
     
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  10. SAFCDRUM

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    Sorry mate, my laughing emoji was meant to come before my sentence. It was tongue in cheek as I liked your SD shaming, which i assumed that investigation took priority over catching the real crooks of WA.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough.

    Do you believe he's wasted any club money and does he deserve to leave with a profit?
     
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  12. marcusblackcat

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    Nailed it. Saved me from writing it too!! Not that there’s much point! There’ll be an arguing post shortly pointing out flaws in your data!!
     
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  13. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how much of the clubs money he has saved or spent.

    Only a buyer could decide if he deserves a profit after doing DD.
     
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  14. Evil Jimmy Krankie

    Evil Jimmy Krankie Well-Known Member

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    Ah, there you go. If I’m honest I can’t remember the last time I personally made an arrest. Probably about six months ago now!
     
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  15. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    You've missed Henderson.

    But 4 premier league players in 12-13 years isn't great by anyone's standards.

    That's a player every 3 years good enough to play at the top level.

    Hardly what you would call a world class academy.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    So he may well have wasted millions yet could still walk away with a big profit ...

    ... it's not a very convincing argument tbh.

    I, personally, believe he deserves some abuse.

    We're on the verge of a new season and the supporters are being left totally in the dark.
     
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  17. Dancingstripes

    Dancingstripes Well-Known Member

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    It's about as convincing as your argument, because like me, you don't know the situation.

    The only difference between us, is you believe he deserves abuse, despite not having a clue what he has and hasn't spent of the clubs money.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    It's not a question of facts, figures and finance.

    Neither he nor Methven have been respectful to the supporters imo and I always respond in kind.
     
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  19. DH4

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    How many have Man. Utd, Liverpool, Man.City et al or even Newcastle brought through in the same time frame. Enlighten me.
     
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  20. clockstander

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    The academy was Premiership class at one time, and has been run down of late, by poor judgement. The team that ended our short stay in the Championship with a 3-0 home win over Wolves 6th May 2018 included Ethan Robson and J. Asoro and Luke Molyneux the three subs were Hume, Embleton and Mumba with a kid called Maja an unused substitute. George Honeyman and Lynden Gooch missed that game but those Sunderland academy players gave me hope for the future, sadly the present team do not inspire the same confidence.
     
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