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'Squad Salary Caps' introduced in League One and League Two

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Dave_39, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely agreed.

    The fact that the proposed cap for the Championship, with barely any extra prize find and TV revenue is £18million just shows how utterly pathetic it is.

    A club of our size can comfortably cover £18million in wages, why the **** should we be hampered and effectively shrunk as a club because there’s some tinpot clubs in the league that nobody cares about or wants to back.

    It’s ****ing garbage.
     
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  2. Sandy Camel

    Sandy Camel Well-Known Member

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    Personally don't think the Champo clubs will vote it in tbh. They're only one step away from the Prem so why hinder yourself when it comes to the chance of getting promotion? Nothing wrong with the previous set up whereby your wage bill limit is set as a percentage of your turnover, which is a sensible and sustainable position to take imo.

    I'm probably going to be in a financial position to start back at matches next year but no way will I do an away day to any of those clubs who voted this in. Why should I play a part in gifting 100k or so to an opposition side when they don't want a level playing field and voted for something that they knew for a fact would be hindering the clubs with a bigger revenue.

    Additionally, I'd be going all out for the best academy players at those clubs. We're a Cat 1, let's use it to cream the best talent away from these places before they can sign professional contracts, same as what's happened to us this last year.
     
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  3. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    I actually think it benefits the Championship clubs and it will pass no problem.

    Thinking about it, allows an average of around 20k week, and most Championship players be on less than that so free up for 2-3 marquee players, then it handicaps the teams coming down from the Prem who more often than not have a massive advantage.

    I can see it being good at that level. Fact remains though it will still be unlawful.
     
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  4. Hefty fullback

    Hefty fullback Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a huge advantage for relegated sides.
     
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  5. Sandy Camel

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    Depends. On one hand, you will have players that normally you wouldn't be able to sign because of the wage cap. On the other, it does mean any relegated club is only selling players to the divisions above them as no one else would be able to pay the wage, even if they could afford it. And a relegated club isn't going to be able to offer a new contract on the same terms even if they could afford it. Sustainability is about living within your means and spending what you can afford and a salary cap does not achieve this imo.
     
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  6. Dave_39

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    18x1500x52= £1.4m
     
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    haslam Well-Known Member

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    This does assume that all eighteen players were on at least 1500 per week. Is that fair to assume?
     
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  9. Porterfield73

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    no idea really, but whatever surplus we have can be used on 4 more players wages, meaning we can spend higher on wages for any 'better' standard players.
     
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  10. Wor Giacchi

    Wor Giacchi Well-Known Member

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    Surely this will hand the agents of players signed before the cap came into place some sort of unfair leverage against clubs when negotiating.
     
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  11. samwise_new

    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    i am still unsure how this idea is going to actually benefit anyone, except maybe premier clubs who can offer a higher wage.

    players will probably end up on much shorter contracts so, if the time comes, they can basically walk away from a club meaning the club gets feck all for their 'investment', i guess the loss of a transfer fee would obviously have to be put against wages saved but if someone finds a new 'starlet' who is obviously going onto a massive career they lose out on the one decent cash injection (plus possible further sales bonus') that could keep a club going for a good while.

    the current 'based on turnover' is about as fair as it can be, for the 'small' teams in our league looking at us and pompey, in the premier league you have clubs like brighton looking at man city etc...clubs have to find a way to boost their product just as any other business has to and despite all this ' we must help the grass roots clubs and lower leagues' bollox, all those in charge really care about are top ten in the premier and euro competitions, all else could fade away as far as they are concerned.
     
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  12. Washysafc

    Washysafc Well-Known Member

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    No, it apples to players already on more than £1500 pw, if they are on less it is the actual salary which counts.
     
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  13. makemdan

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    "Payments directly linked to a Club’s progression in cup competitions or promotion are excluded from the Cap"
    Could bonus linked to league position (top 6 IF we get there) plus extra for automatic promotion or play offs be classed as qualifying exclusions?
     
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  14. Daz

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    Yet again the EFL wording is awful and open to abuse. Lets just offer all the players a massive bonus if we get to the next round of the checkatrade. Sorted.
     
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    Madness. Absolute madness. No way should this be allowed to happen.
     
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  17. BigPete

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    You get the mags kicking off over conspiracy theories holding them back.

    Imagine them in our boots having this cap being put on.

    It's a disgrace shouldn't be a cap but only able to use what you make.
     
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  18. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    It's the ducking EFL what do you expect?
     
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  19. makemdan

    makemdan Well-Known Member

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    Hi and welcome to SAFC new player. Your salary will be ?k per week plus 20k for every week the club is in the top 6 plus 100k for play off at season end (plus 400k if we win it) plus 500k for auto promotion. All cup matches are excluded from your salary payment but will attract a bonus of etc. etc.

    ..OK, that's stretching it but the whole thing is a bucket full of holes

    Players loaned out not included, what about loaned in?
     
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  20. monty987

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    if the academy was working we would not need to be paying big wages, oh hold on we are selling them. these owners have been poor for the last 50 years at our club.
     
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