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I dunno about everyone else but I've self soothed...

Best to move on.. Gotta hope we stay up, get through covid 19 and you never know another buyer might come along. Who knows what the future holds.
 
The emerald guard said:
I dunno about everyone else but I've self soothed...

Best to move on.. Gotta hope we stay up, get through covid 19 and you never know another buyer might come along. Who knows what the future holds.
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Mate, why bother? The system is rigged. It's like playing poker with people you know are cheating, but throwing your money in round after round anyway. Madness.

Personally I'm not sure a takeover even saves it for me. Football is so far past corrupt it's literally not a sport. Referee fixing is clear (Man U's penalty count is ****ing ridiculous), the cartel are in full self-protect mode and nobody seems to understand that - no matter how rich you are - football can't survive without lower leagues.

It's all been exposed and I doubt I'm the only one questioning the validity of it as a competitive sport. I've had no interest in CL fixtures for the best part of a decade. Man City buying their way in was probably the catalyst for disillusionment - and it seems equally ridiculous we'd welcome Saudi's and all their issues just because they write big cheques.

The irony is Mike Ashley's model is what should be broadly adopted (more commercial income and ambition aside). There should be caps on spending, salaries, incoming players, squad sizes, loan market, etc. Football will not survive without radical reform. It should have **** all to do with how much money Sheikh ****ing Mansour has or how much he's going to fudge through the books from Etihad Airways and be about ethical, sustainable efforts - for EVERY ****ING TEAM.

Fairness has disappeared. It's funny that City, Chelsea and Spurs now consider themselves in this elite, when they just got lucky with owners. All three were dogshit in the 80's and 90's - Spurs were always hilarious under-achievers, Chelsea about the same and City were at one point in League One (Sunderland's home). Newcastle, Villa, Everton were all at least as big. Wolves were always a First Div/Championship outfit. So'ton were ever-presents, but always bottom half. There was barely any such thing as Burnley or Bournemouth. But Spurs, Chelsea, City? They aren't big clubs. They weren't when the PL was formed. L'pool and Man U will always be seen as bigger but both have had blips - Liverpool were mid-table in the 90's, Man U more recently though not sure they've ever finished lower than 6th.

FFP is a load of bollocks. Saying "ok, you're Man City, you can spend £200m, you're Everton, you get to spend £60m, you're Norwich, your budget is £30m" is so ****ing wrong it's ridiculous. The whole thing needs to be completely flattened. Massive restrictions on loans you can allow. Massive wage reductions - a cap of £100k pw should be the absolute top limit. And limits to transfer budgets and number of incomings too - at both ends of the scale. I've seen clubs nearly go to the wall bringing in 12 players and getting relegated (Villa/West Ham both nearly victims).

It needs to be completely burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
 
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Roland Deschain said:
Mate, why bother? The system is rigged. It's like playing poker with people you know are cheating, but throwing your money in round after round anyway. Madness.

Personally I'm not sure a takeover even saves it for me. Football is so far past corrupt it's literally not a sport. Referee fixing is clear (Man U's penalty count is ****ing ridiculous), the cartel are in full self-protect mode and nobody seems to understand that - no matter how rich you are - football can't survive without lower leagues.

It's all been exposed and I doubt I'm the only one questioning the validity of it as a competitive sport. I've had no interest in CL fixtures for the best part of a decade. Man City buying their way in was probably the catalyst for disillusionment - and it seems equally ridiculous we'd welcome Saudi's and all their issues just because they write big cheques.

The irony is Mike Ashley's model is what should be broadly adopted (more commercial income and ambition aside). There should be caps on spending, salaries, incoming players, squad sizes, loan market, etc. Football will not survive without radical reform. It should have **** all to do with how much money Sheikh ****ing Mansour has or how much he's going to fudge through the books from Etihad Airways and be about ethical, sustainable efforts - for EVERY ****ING TEAM.

Fairness has disappeared. It's funny that City, Chelsea and Spurs now consider themselves in this elite, when they just got lucky with owners. All three were dogshit in the 80's and 90's - Spurs were always hilarious under-achievers, Chelsea about the same and City were at one point in League One (Sunderland's home). Newcastle, Villa, Everton were all at least as big. Wolves were always a First Div/Championship outfit. So'ton were ever-presents, but always bottom half. There was barely any such thing as Burnley or Bournemouth. But Spurs, Chelsea, City? They aren't big clubs. They weren't when the PL was formed. L'pool and Man U will always be seen as bigger but both have had blips - Liverpool were mid-table in the 90's, Man U more recently though not sure they've ever finished lower than 6th.

FFP is a load of bollocks. Saying "ok, you're Man City, you can spend £200m, you're Everton, you get to spend £60m, you're Norwich, your budget is £30m" is so ****ing wrong it's ridiculous. The whole thing needs to be completely flattened. Massive restrictions on loans you can allow. Massive wage reductions - a cap of £100k pw should be the absolute top limit. And limits to transfer budgets and number of incomings too - at both ends of the scale. I've seen clubs nearly go to the wall bringing in 12 players and getting relegated (Villa/West Ham both nearly victims).

It needs to be completely burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
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Pre PL. Little money, average wages, cheapish tickets, players that played for the love of the game. Even modern stadiums reflect the plastic modern football.
 
Roland Deschain said:
Mate, why bother? The system is rigged. It's like playing poker with people you know are cheating, but throwing your money in round after round anyway. Madness.

Personally I'm not sure a takeover even saves it for me. Football is so far past corrupt it's literally not a sport. Referee fixing is clear (Man U's penalty count is ****ing ridiculous), the cartel are in full self-protect mode and nobody seems to understand that - no matter how rich you are - football can't survive without lower leagues.

It's all been exposed and I doubt I'm the only one questioning the validity of it as a competitive sport. I've had no interest in CL fixtures for the best part of a decade. Man City buying their way in was probably the catalyst for disillusionment - and it seems equally ridiculous we'd welcome Saudi's and all their issues just because they write big cheques.

The irony is Mike Ashley's model is what should be broadly adopted (more commercial income and ambition aside). There should be caps on spending, salaries, incoming players, squad sizes, loan market, etc. Football will not survive without radical reform. It should have **** all to do with how much money Sheikh ****ing Mansour has or how much he's going to fudge through the books from Etihad Airways and be about ethical, sustainable efforts - for EVERY ****ING TEAM.

Fairness has disappeared. It's funny that City, Chelsea and Spurs now consider themselves in this elite, when they just got lucky with owners. All three were dogshit in the 80's and 90's - Spurs were always hilarious under-achievers, Chelsea about the same and City were at one point in League One (Sunderland's home). Newcastle, Villa, Everton were all at least as big. Wolves were always a First Div/Championship outfit. So'ton were ever-presents, but always bottom half. There was barely any such thing as Burnley or Bournemouth. But Spurs, Chelsea, City? They aren't big clubs. They weren't when the PL was formed. L'pool and Man U will always be seen as bigger but both have had blips - Liverpool were mid-table in the 90's, Man U more recently though not sure they've ever finished lower than 6th.

FFP is a load of bollocks. Saying "ok, you're Man City, you can spend £200m, you're Everton, you get to spend £60m, you're Norwich, your budget is £30m" is so ****ing wrong it's ridiculous. The whole thing needs to be completely flattened. Massive restrictions on loans you can allow. Massive wage reductions - a cap of £100k pw should be the absolute top limit. And limits to transfer budgets and number of incomings too - at both ends of the scale. I've seen clubs nearly go to the wall bringing in 12 players and getting relegated (Villa/West Ham both nearly victims).

It needs to be completely burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
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I'm convinced the premier league used Underhand tactics, but ultimately I'm trying to see things from both sides. If the piracy issue wasnt ignored and they hadn't taken the piss this wouldve gone through... It presented the premier league with their out..
 
Roland Deschain said:
Mate, why bother? The system is rigged. It's like playing poker with people you know are cheating, but throwing your money in round after round anyway. Madness.

Personally I'm not sure a takeover even saves it for me. Football is so far past corrupt it's literally not a sport. Referee fixing is clear (Man U's penalty count is ****ing ridiculous), the cartel are in full self-protect mode and nobody seems to understand that - no matter how rich you are - football can't survive without lower leagues.

It's all been exposed and I doubt I'm the only one questioning the validity of it as a competitive sport. I've had no interest in CL fixtures for the best part of a decade. Man City buying their way in was probably the catalyst for disillusionment - and it seems equally ridiculous we'd welcome Saudi's and all their issues just because they write big cheques.

The irony is Mike Ashley's model is what should be broadly adopted (more commercial income and ambition aside). There should be caps on spending, salaries, incoming players, squad sizes, loan market, etc. Football will not survive without radical reform. It should have **** all to do with how much money Sheikh ****ing Mansour has or how much he's going to fudge through the books from Etihad Airways and be about ethical, sustainable efforts - for EVERY ****ING TEAM.

Fairness has disappeared. It's funny that City, Chelsea and Spurs now consider themselves in this elite, when they just got lucky with owners. All three were dogshit in the 80's and 90's - Spurs were always hilarious under-achievers, Chelsea about the same and City were at one point in League One (Sunderland's home). Newcastle, Villa, Everton were all at least as big. Wolves were always a First Div/Championship outfit. So'ton were ever-presents, but always bottom half. There was barely any such thing as Burnley or Bournemouth. But Spurs, Chelsea, City? They aren't big clubs. They weren't when the PL was formed. L'pool and Man U will always be seen as bigger but both have had blips - Liverpool were mid-table in the 90's, Man U more recently though not sure they've ever finished lower than 6th.

FFP is a load of bollocks. Saying "ok, you're Man City, you can spend £200m, you're Everton, you get to spend £60m, you're Norwich, your budget is £30m" is so ****ing wrong it's ridiculous. The whole thing needs to be completely flattened. Massive restrictions on loans you can allow. Massive wage reductions - a cap of £100k pw should be the absolute top limit. And limits to transfer budgets and number of incomings too - at both ends of the scale. I've seen clubs nearly go to the wall bringing in 12 players and getting relegated (Villa/West Ham both nearly victims).

It needs to be completely burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
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FFP your right can be looked at in this way. The clubs who earn the money can spend the most. But that’s fine by me. If it’s ligit and commercial.

The problem is with the billionaire owners there are easy ways around it.

The only way the money can be justified is if it stays in our leagues then the wealth gets redistributed around. If Man City want to spend 300m then as long as it stays in our leagues then it gets spent by the remaining clubs. However that is virtually impossible to structure. And then you have the agents.

Its always been the same though. The bigger clubs who generate more money should be allowed to spend it as they please. I have no issue with that. But there should be restrictions on how many players you can have on your books.
 
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FFP your right can be looked at in this way. The clubs who earn the money can spend the most. But that’s fine by me. If it’s ligit and commercial.

The problem is with the billionaire owners there are easy ways around it.

The only way the money can be justified is if it stays in our leagues then the wealth gets redistributed around. If Man City want to spend 300m then as long as it stays in our leagues then it gets spent by the remaining clubs. However that is virtually impossible to structure. And then you have the agents.

Its always been the same though. The bigger clubs who generate more money should be allowed to spend it as they please. I have no issue with that. But there should be restrictions on how many players you can have on your books.
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I don't like FFP it basically sets the positions almost in stone.. They fluctuate a little but soon reset
 
Geordieginola said:
FFP your right can be looked at in this way. The clubs who earn the money can spend the most. But that’s fine by me. If it’s ligit and commercial.

The problem is with the billionaire owners there are easy ways around it.

The only way the money can be justified is if it stays in our leagues then the wealth gets redistributed around. If Man City want to spend 300m then as long as it stays in our leagues then it gets spent by the remaining clubs. However that is virtually impossible to structure. And then you have the agents.

Its always been the same though. The bigger clubs who generate more money should be allowed to spend it as they please. I have no issue with that. But there should be restrictions on how many players you can have on your books.
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Buying players and then either benching them or loaning out. That should be stopped.
 
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Tbh lads it is what it is and that isn't going to change.. Its either accept the product on offer at your club or don't.

What's on offer is the battle to stay in the premier league.. Thats it that's the product.

I don't bother now haven't for a good while, but annoyingly you still care.

What's everyones thoughts now it's blown I've a bit about their intentions for tickets next season?
 
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There's loads of Mps sent letters now.. Masters must be absolutely sick of his life... Surely they can't just ignore the whole thing? I have a feeling a vague statement will come of all this.. It'll start with some bullshit about how important all clubs including nufc and then the but about their policies and confidence that they did everything in the interests of nufc the premier league and all parties convened.
 
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Well it's going to take off tomorrow

Get your tin hats on there will be backlash

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Darren Peacock's Ponytail said:
I wonder who will be briefing them; the PL, Qatar, MA or PCP?
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I wouldn't expect any support or mention of hypocrisy surrounding human right, but merely letting people know the Toon fans are complaining and wanting questions answered... Like @Geordieginola said earlier we could or are making ourselves look worse but it's worth a punt and could expose the premier league and force a change of sorts...
 
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Darren Peacock's Ponytail said:
What has happened to Richard Keys?
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He's not posted anything much to my surprise... He's replied to a few idiots that are still poking away at him though.

If those people hadn't taken the bait over rafa he'd have moved on.. Imo the fans that are constantly sending abuse have asked for it
 
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