I do not shrink away from my stance about Steve Bruce of recent weeks (even months) and my opinion of him as our manager hasn’t altered at all but you know what, in a perverse way and in addition to my usual stubborn pig headed nature of not agreeing with the majority views if I don’t think it right, I find myself this morning really fully charged behind the manager in a way I didn’t think possible 24 hours ago. Does he deserve the criticism for team selection, recruitment and tactical blunders of recent times? Of course he does, he’s a very well paid manager. Does his position as manager deserve debate and discussion? Absolutely, as it is upon his shoulders that our future rests. But does he deserve this latest revelation about Bramble? A player already skirting controversy earlier this year and 100% backed by his manager and Chairman at that time, has really let us as fans, the club as an institution and especially Bruce as his friend and manager down like nothing else. Does he deserve to have the scum berating him as they have done in the last few hours? **** no. There has been a plethora of amoeba like, pond dwelling barcode scumbags infesting our board in the last 24 hours to have their sad day in the spotlight, poking fun at us, the club, Niall and the manager. If that’s their only source of relief in a tired and sad lonely existence then so be it. I'm drawing the line in the sand here and now for SAFC, its fans, Chairman and especially its beleaguered manager. Its time to stop saying these window licking ****wits are ‘canny lads’ and ‘add to our debate’, they are not. They are just thick ******s one and all but especially the usual 3 or 4 mongs who infest our posts daily/hourly to offer their unrequested ‘thoughts and views’. **** them. The filth have managed to rally my support for Bruce in a way that has taken me complete surprise by their attacks and jibes and I find myself now urging him to shove it back down their and my throats this weekend. In a typically British trait, in the face of adversity we remain united and as one. We all have one common enemy now and it isn’t Steve Bruce. He is our manager and if we want to abuse and call him that’s one thing. These lame craa ****s can't. He's ours as I say and ripping the piss out if him is akin to ripping it out of us all. Lines are drawn. I'm dug in for the fight ahead, whether it is on the beaches, the trenches or on the home lands of the SOL. One of my heroes is Winston Churchill and I'd like to share 2 speeches he made which fit our current situation albeit in a much more serene background. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land, and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us; to wage war against a monstrous tyranny (the Mags) never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France (at the games and msg boards), we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, and we shall defend our island (SOL), whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the new world, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old. The mag filth should have united us now as one voice. Whatever the plight of our club its always our club, always will be our club and we shall always be proud of them no matter what. Victory on Saturday Steve Bruce and stick your own 2 fingers up to EVERYONE. FTM
Congrats on using words by a great man... Defence lines are drawn, another battle about to commence, The head of the force is fine all highly respected, and his chief of command has come through the ranks and is no shrinking violet... Word needs to be passes down to his General, who must suceed with his battle plan and not lead his troops into battle blind. Planning and more planning has to be done, and hopefully his qualified staff have done their recconassiance well, and the battle will be won. And then the victory flag will be raised once again.
Cest - just don't read them, mate. I don't. I'll read Chappaz because I think he makes some very reasonable points (and gets some very unreasonable abuse from our lot incidentally). But apart from him, I haven't read a mag post for months. I frankly couldn't give a sh*t what mags think, and I certainly haven't time to waste on reading them. I've even less time to waste on answering them.
I could not agree more. I care about what were doing not what they are doing. A win is needed Saturday lets hope the lads are up for it.
Chappaz is sound and I enjoy having reasonable debate between both sets of fans and he provides that. The thread by someone on here wanting us to loose to West Brom was utterly disgraceful in my opinion and worse than any barcodes invading our board. I would be over the moon if we win on Saturday and hope Bruce also sticks a V shaped hand up at some people, even though things are far from perfect we still need to pick up the points regardless of the situation. Im kind of looking forward to Saturday now and the Baggies arnt doing nowt spesh either so lets get behind the lads and get 3 points! Haway Sunland
For starters, great opening post cest I agree with every word of it. The use of the great Churchill speeches is really inspirational stuff so let us unite against the mindless, crass comments from the mag fans simply by ignoring them as cutybuns suggests. One idea that I had is to transferr all the mags mindless posts to one thread so that it would not spoil the genuine Sunderland supporters forum. I don't know if this could be done and if so would Syd do it because he is the one charged with the responsibility and the man who would have to do the work. What's the answer Syd. Incidentally the chappaz is the one mag whose posts I wouldn't touch, they are just about always to the point and interesting unlike many of his fellow Newcastle supporters.
I wouldn't let posts from Newcastle fans get to you... the vast majority of people using the forum are daft kids as far as I'm aware. Plus any gloating that may be going on is ridiculously premature.
Yes I can and indeed I do, however, we seem very capable of causing our own problems. Take a look at our board and the number of posts we start that include Newcastle, we do it, basicaly invite them over by doing it then complain because they are here. Its the age old story and TBH it's unfair, I deleted a thread a few days ago because I thought it was leading to a slanging match and wanted to avoid the slanging match, I posted explaining what I had done and why I had done it. I was then slated by some, childish, power mad, biased and a lot worse. When we started on not606 we talked about self moderation and how self moderation would make this board a good board. Now it seems that ****, ****, twat and the likes are needed in threads and indeed thread titles. We no longer have the ability to simple laugh at those who wum or simply ignore them and when, like on an earlier thread, I tried to explain the problem of moderating and a one fix for all what do I get, more abuse from a Sunderland fan sick of those mag scum who abuse us. I guarntee that either myself, commo, BB or Dorset could delete or even ban the next Newcastle supporter who infests our board and within the hour we would be told how we are killing freedom of speech, debate and are simply power mad morons. We are all proper grown up people, dont talk to them and they will go away, obvious wum coments we will delete, starting now but the rest, its down to you. The one good thing is they have got Cest backing Bruce this weekend so that will do for me.
I do work kidda but if I get caught on this site my position may well be up for grabs. Lol (I work out of the office for 2/3rds of the time and often tune in while out on the road mate. Its a great life eh? No-one looks over my shoulder - bliss)
Cest if you genuinely didn't want Newcastle fans to comment on your posts, you wouldn't mention "the craas" in 99% of your posts as you always seem to do. Either way, it's our time to poke the fun, just as you did when we were relegated, now we see a Newcastle ex player and a Newcastle supporting manager both dragging your club down. Of course we will poke fun, as much as we possibly can while it lasts, and you would do the same in our position. If anything I said there is wrong then I'd be very glad for someone to tell me, but I believe I'm correct.
And here we have the perfect example, you are the mod, what do you do? Delete the post even though the only reason can be because its a Newcastle supporter Ban the poster, he is from Newcastle and its what you want off. What do you do? Ignore the post and it dies Comment back Abuse
You surely must agree that Cest generally provokes a response from NUFC fans that he knows will read the post, then abuses them when they inevitably respond. The constant use of the word craas rather than geordies or newcastle fans is clearly provocative. I understand your problem, but am close to giving up on writing reasonable posts as they get turned on just as much as the unreasonable ones. It is the "this is the sunderland board, for sunderland fans only" mentality that causes more problems than anything.
Cest. at last the voice of reason , a great post which alot of us agree with. To the lads who think Chapparse is 'alright'..well Iam very sorry chaps but I think if you read almost 99% of his posts you will find that little dig in there which is indicative of his real motives. The Mass influx of Skunks on this site has now become a joke and whilst Syd et al state that ' Freedom of speech' must be maintained, its gone well beyond that in my book, the same issues that reared its ugly head almost a month ago have resurfaced and our forum is being taken over by these undesireables, trust me its not just banter is gone well beyond that (anyone reading the posts by Joker the other night could see that). What I have noticed is the increase in threads actually being created on our site by the Skunks...its rapidly on the increase...so what is it ? genuine interest, obsession or provocation....I know which one Id bet on
The questions are for the Sunderland fans and genuine ones, its very easy to say ban or delete but in practice its really not that easy. That said oter boards do have those rules and this is the Sunderland fans board so if they tell us mods what to do, and we have a majority its what we will do.
So just ignore them, dont bite, whats worse, a mag asking a question in a thread, or the **** OFF, PISS OFF 100 replies that inevitably go with them from our lot. If i want to reply to them its nearly impossibe because of all the name calling, **** spewing thats getting thrown about. Just press the back button if you dont like the post, and let those that want to discuss it, discuss it, its not hard.
Fair opinion blackcatsteve. If fans are going to be deleted for commenting on another teams bored, I would say that by the same token, people like master-simpson should be banned. No matter what is posted, if its a newcastle fan he replies something along the lines of : **** off to your own board - bart. We have to remember, this is a forum for all premier league fans, just because a lot of sunderland fans want it, you cant ban people for commenting on the sunderland board. If you hate it that much, you would choose a sunderland only forum, its common sense
Agreed.... We seem to be split on this at the moment, some say ban, some say don't... It is a sad fact the only thing iv'e deleted today was actually a personal attack on Syd, oh yes it was by one of our own...
