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Discussion in 'F1 Off Topic' started by El_Bando, Jul 28, 2011.

  1. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Thanks guys, So what would you suggest is the best progression of upgrades to facilities?
     
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  2. chrispa76

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    Guys I am trying to figure out how to exactly calculate the OA so if you have the possibility please post how much your driver changed during the race. Here is mine:
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    Overall:		68	+4	72
    Concentration:		69	0	69
    Talent:			236	0	236
    Aggressiveness:		0	0	0
    Experience:		18	+1	19
    Technical insight:	1	+2	3
    Stamina:    		6	+4	10
    Charisma:	       	28	+1	29
    Motivation:		2	+36	38
    Reputation:		0	0	0
    Weight(kg):		85	0	85
    Age:			22	0	22
    
    Started P12 Finished P11
    
    No need to make it fancy I was just lazy and copied/pasted what I have put in excell. Just the last race is enough and just the stats before and after the race. And if you didn't save it, maybe next time :)
     
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  3. chrispa76

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    No idea, i just noticed your pitstops being very slow, I have put all my facilities at level 10 but maximum is level 20 for rookie. Also the media center is good, it makes you finish negotiations with a sponsor much much faster.


    EDIT: After some digging I found that most vets suggest that you need to upgrade commercial and pit stop training center to level 20 and NOTHING else. Leave the rest at 0 apparently
     
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  4. chrispa76

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    New link added in the group
     
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  5. Masanari

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    Are you sure you will not need more fuel than that? It is a high fuel consumption track.
     
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  6. TheModestMatt

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    I was going to say the same, im going for 86-86-86 if that helps.
     
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  7. chrispa76

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    WOOPS I must have been tired I
    I usually don't screw up with numbers. Very sorry.. We need about ~265 liters for the entire race. and that means 91, 87, 87 Depending on engine and such. I abandoned my Hard Tyre and 1 stopper thoughts.
     
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  8. chrispa76

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    yea i always add a little to be on the safe side.
     
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  9. Masanari

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    Yes that is exactly what I was thinking of doing, although I am also tempted with a one stopper on hard tyres.
     
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  10. TheModestMatt

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    Its temping but the high fuel and hard tyres could comprimise qualifying too much and race pace early on, you end up losing so much time when your not at the front i notice.
     
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  11. Ben Schulz

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    hey guys so i went on a big driver hunt yesterday and had about 30 drivers on my shortlist all relatively the same attributes. but i tell u pickin the one i wanted was really hard lol. its amazing how they could all be so close but finding the difference between the good drivers and the not so good ones is hard. so aftr about 3 hours i found the one i wanted but had 5 bids already so i made a bid anyways and bidded on my next preffered driver. as it turns out i won the bid of the driver i wanted so im happy and quietly confident he will do awesome. here are his stats;

    Overall: 85
    Concentration: 158
    Talent: 138
    Aggressiveness: 0
    Experience: 139
    Technical insight: 91
    Stamina: 0
    Charisma: 54
    Motivation: 49
    Reputation: 0
    Weight(kg): 86
    Age: 29

    i paid him 5 mil outright for his sign on and am payin 2 mil per race for him which is kinda alot but i really wanted this driver and feel this could be the one. i think i can manage my bankroll really well and if he wins races i should be alright. he is my last roll of the dice for this season so if he doesnt work out well then i will throw this season down the drain and just spend money on finding out new things i.e a good driver, one that i can use for next season possibly gettin a real cheap low oa kind of driver and training him ready for next season or testing knowing that ill get 35 mil next season. im really excited i kno he will qualify well, but what really gets me exctited is that the first driver i signed this season (not the one i was given) had pretty much similar attributes but about 20-30 less for concentration and about 40 less for his talent with hardly any experience and i was gettin 7ths and 4ths with him so im expecting good results. for this race i think a 1 stopper will be the prime as the pit in/out time is 21! and is hard to overtake. u may loose a few positions on the grid when qualifying but itll be worth it when the others drivers get stuck behind one another while u have clear track running ur own pace. so im thinkin hard tyres as medium tyres may degarte really fast. as for fuel im not sure but im thinkin around 260 possibly more. will start doing my working out now.
     
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  12. chrispa76

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    Nice Ben, congrats on the driver! I think he looks good too.

    Yes 260L is what I got but I added another 5L just in case. And if you are doing a 1 stopper you must go hard tyres according to my data. Though even if you make one less stop, and the speed of the medium and hard compound are almost the same at this track, you will also carry a lot of extra fuel and the pit stop will take a bit longer because you take on more fuel. I reckon you will loose about 30 seconds in total race time going hard tyres. But that could be worth it seeing as its hard to overtake and if you are fast but then being stuck behind traffic would be terrible.

    I qualified on mediums about 4 seconds of pace.. completely clueless why I am being so slow because my setup is absolutely spot on I am 99% sure. During practice I am making 1.5 seconds error per lap in average and I have the option "push a little" during my runs. Maybe it is my drivers low EXP/conc.. Well this driver had only done 2 races when I got him so it will increase over time. Its next season that matters for me.
     
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  13. Ben Schulz

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    Christian
    i think u might be right with the 1 stopper but im still unsure what ill do so ima do my q1 and if its really quick then i might go for a 1 stopper knowing i still may qualify ahead of the 2 stoppers keeping them behind me but if my q1 aint as good as i thought then i may go 2 stopper. will see how i go. with qualifying experience is important as well as talent and concentration. seeing as though ur concentration is really low id say that would be what ur driver lacks but u should improve. also i noticed aftr doing some research that talent really isnt that important in rookie, dnt get me wrong talent is important but it seems to be that too much talent could be a bad thing given the fact that ur concentration may be low as a result. ur concentration is what should be really high. iv heard some ppl say that u could have like 250 talent and 200 concentration in rookie and ur driver may still be a flop. the imformation my team leader gave me seems to back that up with the best drivers having their talent less then 143!! it seems to be that a driver with really high talent is only good if u promote as the talent will keep up if u have good car levels. the hard thing is gettin ur driver to help u promote with high talent especially if his concentration and experience is low. while i was looking at drivers i noticed drivers with really high talent but their concentration and experience is currently higher than urs
     
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  14. Ben Schulz

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    ok so i qualified in 9th postion but thats coz i screwed my q2 lap. my strategy is mediumes 2 stop with 100/85/85 litre stints. im using 270 litres, i just got a feeling 260 might not be enough and i dnt mind carrying a bit of extra fuel to get me home, im expecting a good race. also dnt forget to use slicks instead of rain tyres. u wouldnt want to make that mistake.
     
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  15. chrispa76

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    Yea is what we talked about a few days ago. I am aware that the amount of talent isn't that very important in rookie but It would be super cool to go all the way with the same driver from rookie to elite. Though I didn't expect me being FOUR seconds slower? Maybe 1-2. I thought it was my car levels but I am not that sure anymore.

    What is everyone else's car levels? Mine being 27, 27, 27 and expecting to gain another +20, +20, +10 through the next two races for my engineering points that I have gained through testing. Hopefully that will help a little. I will stick with him for the rest of the season and switch for next season if I don't improve.

    I am going 80, 90, 90 and praying it will be enough. Otherwise I'll have a splash and dash for 20 liters my last stop. Being 4 seconds off the lead is too much to be able to finish at the top anyway.

    Ben how much do you push during qualify and during the race? I have had "push a little" during qualify and 10, 10, 20, 0 during the race.
     
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  16. Ben Schulz

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    ye ur car isnt what ur lacking, in rookie its all about ur driver , i mean for sure do up ur car but its not gonna make that much difference. my car levels are 16 16 20. when i was finishing in top ten at start of season i hadnt even looked at my car characteristics (apart from the wear off course). good managers in rookie whov been trying to promote aftr a few seasons realise that they dont need to and rather save money. theyll end up doing their car like halfway through the season when theyv saved alot of money and are a good amount of races ahead of the budget. when ur car part is close to 100% then level up if u think its not gonna hurt ur bankroll but as i said iv been slowly upgrading my parts saving money when i can, obviously my bankroll aint as good coz of all the driver signing iv done and paying out my old driver but give me 3 more races and ill be able to have a good run home. as far as knowing when to push hard it all depends on ur drivers aggression, talent concentration and experience but mainly aggression, concentration and experience. if ur aggression is high then u wont wanna push at all, experience gives u confidence and concentration allows u to keep ur composure, talent is also good but u can manage without it. i very rarely push at all in q2 because u have a heavier car as compared to q1 therefore easier to make mistakes but i would say, 100-150 concentration along with experience u can push a bit and when its like 200 or maybe just under u can push hard and even more like close to 250's u can push tio the limit. i tried to push hard in q1 and lost about 3-4 tenths but wanted to try it to see where i stand. i qualified 5th in q1 where i could have qualified 3rd. in ur sake u could try to push a little bit and see where u stand without losing too much time. i kno now that i will only be pushing a little bit for q1 from now on.
     
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  17. Ben Schulz

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    also with the race risk i always try to keep it under 10, for instance in the race tonight i kno its hard to overtake so i wont need to use much defending or overtake. it all depends on ur strategy, like if u where to do a 1 stop strategy then u might want to put maybe 5 defending 1 overtake coz ur heavy and will be hard to overtake anyway and put like 15 for when the track is clear knowing thats when ull make ur time. ive gone for 2 stops so ive put 6 for all except when mailfunctioning, that should always be 0. ive gone for all 6 (cept mailfunctioning) coz i wanna be able to keep up with the drivers ahead of me but i dnt wat ppl to overtake me and off course is good when trasck is clear. over 10 and ur car parts will wear quite a bit and come season end ur car will mot be able to finish races because u kept upgrading ur cars and ur risks were too high so u have no money to fix it and then off course u may lose ur driver on top of it all. im starting with 100 litres and still qualified ok but while all the front runners have pitt and are running much slower due to being stuck behind other cars and having heavier fuel ill be able to run quicker laps and get ahed and then with my 2 stints or 85 litres will be lighter than the others for a good run to the finish. i just need a good first pit which is where my level 20 pitstop workshop guys should come in handy and the correct amount of fuel. it should really work as most guys infront of me have obviously fueled for a 3 stopper while the guys ahead of them should keep them behing as theyr doin a 2 stopper like so i should be able to keep up with the 3 stoppers. :)
     
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  18. TheModestMatt

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    you guys have made me fuel paranoid lol, i was gonna go 86-86-86 but now going 86-91-91 because theres nothing worse than an extra pit stop, good luck tonight :)
     
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  19. El_Bando

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    with data I had and calculated by GO it told me 80 84 84

    hmm two high fuel races this year with averages of:
    Anderstorp 1.244km/L
    Paul Ricard 1.638km/L
     
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  20. chrispa76

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    lol :D


    @Ben, thanks mate, i made it home just in time for the race, I will change some. and gonna look more at it after race.


    Good luck everyone!


    EDIT: noooo Its too late to change stuff :( oh well
     
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