How CIA Invented the Term “Conspiracy Theory” to Discredit You https://www.topsecretwriters.com/2018/02/cia-invented-term-conspiracy-theory-discredit/
Ok we'll stop calling it ''conspiracy theory'' and just call it Butthuber's fantasy theory - is that better ? The terminology used doesn't make it any less loony or dangerous.
You are getting excited about something which is beyond your believes. In your narrow world it is not possible so it must not exist. Apart from your anxiety you never managed to even answer a single question that I have raised. Besides, if you do have a different view just overlook my comments. But if you continue to react you will be obliged to give facts why Covid-19 is not a hoax.
I think that the death figures are sufficient 'facts' as to why Covid 19 is not a hoax - you are the one who is disputing them so it is up to you to provide facts. You apparently object to your ideas being referred to as a conspiracy theory - why ? You have a theory - and that is that there is a conspiratorial link between George Soros, Bill Gates, a hidden elite, the WHO, BLM, Greta Thunberg, the left and Green Parties, eventually culminating in a Communist takeover, presumably led by Angela Merkel. That sounds to me very much the mother of all conspiracy theories (so many actors involved from so many walks of life !). Forming such an overlapping theory is only possible from a specific political standpoint - only someone of your persuasion could start with Covid 19 and arrive at theories about Europe being taken over by alien cultures and use the 'Kalegi plan' as support for this. However - ignoring your political agenda for a moment - the immediate result of anyone believing the basis to your theory that Covid 19 is a hoax would be for people to throw off their masks and all form of social distancing. The result of which would be an immediate spike in new cases, and deaths, so that would be the immediate result of people believing you. As has been said by another poster recently, your ideas are dangerous and offensive.
Florida Health Officer Labels Motorcycle Crash Victim a Coronavirus Death 182,115 please log in to view this image Associated Preess Kyle Morris17 Jul 202032,701 2:15 An individual who was killed in a fatal motorcycle crash in Florida was recently listed as a COVID-19 death for the Sunshine State, according to a state health official. The truth about the death was brought to light after FOX 35 News asked Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether the two individuals in their 20s who were listed as coronavirus deaths had any underlying conditions. “The first one didn’t have any,” Pino said. “He died in a motorcycle accident.” Pino was then questioned on whether the data from the individual who passed away in the motorcycle crash had been removed from the system, to which Pino said, “I don’t think so. I have to double-check.” In an odd continuation, Pino went on to insist that one could “argue” that COVID-19 may have “caused” the individual to crash. Pino stated: We were arguing, discussing, or trying to argue with the state. Not because of the numbers…it’s 100…it doesn’t make any difference if it’s 99, but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one. According to FOX 35 News, “There are still two people in their 20s on Orange County’s data list for coronavirus deaths.” In an effort to clarify how a COVID-19 death is counted, a statement was sent to FOX 35 News from the Florida Department of Health earlier this week. The statement said a “COVID death” is determined if …COVID19 is listed as the immediate or underlying cause of death, or listed as one of the significant conditions contributing to death. Or, if there is a confirmed COVID-19 infection from a lab test – and the cause of death doesn’t meet exclusion criteria – like trauma, suicide, homicide, overdose, motor-vehicle accident, etc. “The only thing that I can say to people is the data I provide you with is the data we consume from the state,” Pino concluded. “We offer you the best data that we have.”
Not really up ButtHuber's street, but I would really suggest that if you can, please sign up for this. Clinical knowledge can only be obtained from real people, and so we can all help to develop the vaccine that will save many thousands if not millions of lives. Thank you A new NHS service has been launched today (20 July), helping people across the UK sign up for information on taking part in new COVID-19 vaccine trials. For those of you on last week's Research Champions call, this was the sign up service I mentioned. Please share on your social media if you can. https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/new-nhs-service-enables-people-to-sign-up-to-be-contacted-for-covid-19-vaccine-studies/25295
SARS-CoV2 is no more dangerous than the average Influenza viruses. There are plenty of different Corona viruses known for many years but still noone ever thought of developing a vaccine for one of those since they are considered to be harmless. Just to give a little overview about the recent pandemic´s as people tend to forget: - 1957: Influenza pandemic, up to two million dead worldwide; in Germany 30,000 dead - 1968: Hong Kong flu, up to two million dead worldwide, 40,000 dead in the Federal Republic of Germany - 1995/1996: Influenza epidemic in Germany; 30,000 deaths - 2004/2005: Worldwide viral flu; in Germany 6 million people fell ill, 20,000 deaths. - 2012/2013: Influenza epidemic in Germany; 29,000 deaths. - 2017/2018: Influenza epidemic in Germany; 25,000 deaths. - 2019/2020 worldwide influenza; in Germany with officially 9000 deaths from COVID-19. If we start testing the new mRNA vaccine it will take 8 - 10 years before it can be applied like for every new vaccine. It even takes 1 - 2 years for a new vaccine for influenza as the testing is very complex and time consuming which is the reason we do get the vaccine from last year or the one before. Those vaccinces (for influenza) are already tested and that is the difference to a completely new vaccine. Hydroxychlorquin for instance was used in Brasil and a study showed that hospitalized COVID-19 patients who received high doses of hydroxychloroquine experienced dangerous cardiac arrhythmias. The researchers therefore discontinued the arm of the study in favour of a lower dose. Hydroxychlorquin was recommended at first by the WHO which caused many deaths there and has not been made public. It all starts with the The Great Reset and COVID-19 has been misused for total destruction of the "Old/Current Economy Model" which will end up in 4IR. 100 millions of people will lose their jobs especially in the Western World and COVID-19 is the ideal distraction from the real problem (The Elite). Unbelievable that so many people buy into that utterly stupid COVID-19 narrative.
There is one great mistake in your calculations - namely that we have no way of knowing how high the death toll may have been without a lockdown having taken place. The low figures appear to justify the lockdown ! The British lockdown was much later - let the cat out of the bag before chasing it, and we have seen the results of that. There is the World of difference between suggesting that we may have overreacted and claiming that the whole thing is a hoax - how do you suppose that some hidden elite could have started an epidemic in Wuhan ? And can you be a little bit more precise about who this 'elite' is - other than the newfound bogeymen of the hard right such as George Soros and Bill Gates ? Grouped together with anyone else you (and the rest of your crew) have it in for.
From ButtHuber SARS-CoV2 is no more dangerous than the average Influenza viruses. IT IS A LOT MORE TRANSMISSABLE THOUGH UNLIKE INFLUENZA, 50-70 % OF PATIENTS ARE ASSYMPTOMATIC OR LOW LEVEL SYMPTOMS, AND SO DO NOT ISOLATE...(When you have flu...you are ill) If we start testing the new mRNA vaccine it will take 8 - 10 years before it can be applied like for every new vaccine. WHY EVERY VACCINE.. WE HAVE THE DNA/RNA EQUENCE ALREADY, AND THE RNA VACCINE IS IN STAGE 2 TRIALS It even takes 1 - 2 years for a new vaccine for influenza as the testing is very complex and time consuming which is the reason we do get the vaccine from last year or the one before. Those vaccinces (for influenza) are already tested and that is the difference to a completely new vaccine ONLY TODAY OXFORD HAVE ANNOUNCED THEIR VACCINE PRODUCES A ROBUST RESPONSE IN 1700 PATIENTS Hydroxychlorquin for instance was used in Brasil and a study showed that hospitalized COVID-19 patients who received high doses of hydroxychloroquine experienced dangerous cardiac arrhythmias. The researchers therefore discontinued the arm of the study in favour of a lower dose. Hydroxychlorquin was recommended at first by the WHO which caused many deaths there and has not been made public. UK WERE NOT STUPID AND PUIT IT IN A CLINICAL TRIAL, AND SHOWED THIS IN LESS THAN 100 PATIENTS, WHEN THE STUDY ARM WAS HALTED. Hydroxychlorquin was started by Trump, as was bleach drinking It all starts with the The Great Reset and COVID-19 has been misused for total destruction of the "Old/Current Economy Model" which will end up in 4IR. 100 millions of people will lose their jobs especially in the Western World and COVID-19 is the ideal distraction from the real problem (The Elite). Unbelievable that so many people buy into that utterly stupid COVID-19 narrative. I BUY INTO IT, BECAUSE IT IS REAL. BECAUSE IT KILLS PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE IT EVEN MORE DANGEROUS THAN IT IS
The plan of the virus had been preanounced in 2010 (I had provided the Rockefeller Foundation Document). The pandemic event 201 took place in September 2019 simulating what is happening right now. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation are the main sponsors of the WHO. Bill Gates funded the Wuhan lab in China that released the Wuhan virus and is already selling test kits. Coincidence? Bill Gates was a member of China's Academy of Sciences who built the lab and he was awarded their highest honor. The Wuhan virus was originally developed by Chinese scientists at the University of North Carolina by NIH grants approved by the Obama administration in 2012. Bill Gates is not only advocating vaccinating everbody on earth he is the also earning himself (through his Foundation) a fortune. According to LifeSiteNews, a Catholic publication, the Kenya Catholic Doctors Association is charging UNICEF and WHO with sterilizing millions of girls and women under cover of an anti-tetanus vaccination program sponsored by the Kenyan government. It should be noted that UNICEF and WHO distribute these vaccines for free, and that there are financial incentives for the Kenyan government to participate in these programs. When funds from the UN are not enough to purchase yearly allotments of vaccines, an organization started and funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, GAVI, provides extra funding for many of these vaccination programs in poor countries. (See: Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Vaccine Empire on Trial in India.) Also, there was no outbreak of tetanus in Kenya, only the perceived “threat” of tetanus due to local flood conditions. These local disasters are a common reason UNICEF goes into poorer countries with free vaccines to begin mass vaccination programs. The Elite: It makes me laugh having to look at Forbes World’s Billionaires List where you can find very rich people which are definetely not running the world - they are just the frontmen giving the "real" Elite a face. Those are the likes such as Gates, Soros, Buffet etc. The people behind that own the Financial System and will bring it down when the time is right - which is about now. All politicians, media people etc. are in their pockets that is why never ever anything will happen to the benefit of the masses. Nonetheless names are very, very unimportant but the consequences we are facing right now are vital to understand. This lockdown where we have to wear masks (which are useless) has been organized on top level. They are already propagating a new wave this autumn which will finish of the Economy. We are running round in circles here. You are stuck with what you know fending off what does not belong into your world - you call it conspiracy, I call it the truth. My intention is to wake up fellow R´s who doubt the official narrative. Nobody stuck (like you) will ever understand - but you will find out this year.
Beth, please think for a minute. If Oxford have announced their vaccine produced a robust response in 1700 patients when did they start the testing ? You should easily know that it takes 8 - 10 years for a new vaccine before it can be used - how come that Oxford has already started which is impossible. Only if they knew SARS-CoV2 a long time ago (like 2010) this could happen. Hydroxychlorquin was recommended by the WHO (they withdrew that recommendation afterwards) and Trump was only thinking about using it - he certainly did not use it in Brasil. You should not mix up the facts please. SARS-CoV2 can be dangerous for very vulnerable and elderly people but certainly not for healthy people. You want to believe it is dangerous but it isn´t. I had listed several examples in my prior post of examples where no measures had been taken.
Just for information, something that describes the complete process for a new vaccine (US example) Vaccine Testing and the Approval Process Development of New Vaccines The general stages of the development cycle of a vaccine are: Exploratory stage Pre-clinical stage Clinical development Regulatory review and approval Manufacturing Quality control Clinical development is a three-phase process. During Phase I, small groups of people receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and physical health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended. In Phase III, the vaccine is given to thousands of people and tested for efficacy and safety. ...followed by... Vaccine Product Approval Process The sponsor of a new vaccine product follows a multi-step approval process, which typically includes An Investigational New Drug application Pre-licensure vaccine clinical trials A Biologics License Application (BLA) Inspection of the manufacturing facility Presentation of findings to FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory CommitteeExternal (VRBPAC) Usability testing of product labeling After approving a vaccine, FDA continues to oversee its production to ensure continuing safety. Monitoring of the vaccine and of production activities, including periodic facility inspections, must continue as long as the manufacturer holds a license for the vaccine product. Even the Developement Phase takes between 1 - 2 years followed by quite a long approval process. Historically the complete procedure takes 8 years. Let´s reduce it to 5 years as some studies claim it can be done more quickly. How on earth are we now talking about testings on "real" people after just 4 months of Corona ?
So you are talking about a hidden shady elite who cannot be named - I wonder why ? There is no evidence that the virus was started deliberately at a lab in Wuhan - this has been disproved a hundred times - what reason would China have to ruin its economy in accordance with your conspiracy plan - or do you think the leaders in China are also puppets on a string ? There has never been any suggestion that the plan is to vaccinate everyone on Earth, or that such a thing would be anything other than voluntary. But I am interested in the hidden elite you say is behind this. According to your analysis Capitalism is entering its monopoly, and ultimate stage, and will do this by ruining all other classes and driving them down to the status of passive consumers - apparently this will look like Communism (at least for the masses) - or it will actually descend into such social disorder that it will lead to real Communism - or - a third alternative which does away with internationalism altogether ! Tell me - what do you want people to do as a result of reading your drivel ? What is the plan of action behind your theory ? Because ideas without action equals nothing, which you know well enough - so what is your agenda ?
As I said before - COVID-19 is for the stupid. They will suffer the most but then again their own decision.
So what is your agenda apart from wanting people to believe in doomsday scenarios which do no good to anyone other than to spread the virus even faster ?
I'm sorry Butthuber, you really need to know a little bit more about what you talk about, before spouting accurate and inflammatory information. Oxford started testing in early May, the primary response will happen in about 3 weeks (IgM response)...the secondary response (IgG) from 6 weeks . The (secondary response) blood was collected late June and will have been tested in first week of July. They know the trialists are actually forming active and blocking antibodies. Which is tremendous news. I have told you before that the shortcut involved were carrying out safety tests as well as primary immunisations at the same time. The Gates foundation has allowed Oxford (and other vaccine producers) to start large scale vaccine production, before full approval (knowing if they fail the approval, the money will be lost). Which is very alturistic (whatever yoyu think Butthuber). If it all goes well we will have a vaccine by early next year..(you do need to keep up with current scientific work BH). Hhydroxyquine was recommended by Trump (who said he was taking it prophylactically), and the USA bought up the world supply of hydroxyquinone...depriving people with rheumatoid arthrtis and malaria of their treatment, which was a disgusting action. SARS-CoV2 can be dangerous for very vulnerable and elderly people but certainly not for healthy people. Again you are wrong, there are a lot of "apparently" healthy people who have been struck down with Covid 19. We do not know wy but 20-30% of deaths are in people who have NO underlying diseases. You want to believe it is dangerous but it isn´t. Butthuber, it is very dangerous to many many vunerable people, to older people, to those with even mild underlying diseases. to people who get a big dose (e.g NHS workers, public employees such as bus drivers etc), to the young, to people of BAME backgrounds, to carers. I sincerely hope you never have to experience the loss of someone you care for
Beth, a new vaccine can be ready and approved within 8 years everything else is a criminal act. You seem to have a personal interest in spreading disinformation that a Vaccine Testing and the Approval Process can be done in within a year or less - this is just the repetition of the official propaganda. Clueless unfortunately. No healthy people have been struck that is just another lie of the fearmongers. You do not even question the way the so called COVID-19 deaths come together. If that doesn´t bother you how serious a person can you be ? You never questioned wearing masks which are very dangerous for healthy people - that does not seem to bother you as well. Sorry Beth, but it is very obvious that you have swallowed the blue pill.
Were these 600 nurses subsequently in pathology and the cause of death was investigated ? Of course not. They had been tested with a PCR test (with many false positve results) BUT noone ever checked if they died with or from SARS-CoV2. That is just fraud and you seem to accept these dubious results which only means you are interested in the fabrication of false numbers. Science works differently but then again you obviously have never made such an experience.
