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Daily Racing Thread Saturday 18th. July 2020

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Jul 17, 2020.

  1. NDS

    NDS Well-Known Member

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    Going to out with the Nephew to watch the mighty City put Arsenal back in
    there box Again!

    hoping for another three winners to make it not a bad day.

    golf tomorrow for the very first time so I'm just going to take a hip flask and hack around Lol
     
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  2. SwanHills

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    Bravo, NDS, you were quite right. Maybe I should have waited a bit? Well done! <ok>
     
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  3. Grendel

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    It's been a long day waiting for the Irish Oaks and some time to go yet.

    I did Cayenne Pepper for the Epsom Oaks ante-post but Jessica Harrington said very early this year that the Irish Oaks was the target. I backed her at 3/1 for today's race and felt she was the one to beat. I thought the trainer put her right up against it facing the 4YO Magical over 10F as a seasonal debut. No match for one of the best fillies in training, she apparently surprised the stable with her nevertheless decent effort in second place. Both trainer and jockey have said Cayenne Pepper was not looking or working well early in the season but has now thrived since her most recent start. She was a decent 4th in behind Love in last season's Fillies Mile won by Equilateral and although you cannot try to tie that form literally to Love's Guineas and Oaks romps, it was still decent form and the jockey said she didn't feel right that day. Shane Foley thought last season that Cayenne Pepper might be Harrington's best filly but after the Fillies Mile and the way they all came though the winter he said that he thought Albigna was looking the best and had done better over the winter than the others. As it turned out, Albigna flopped in the Irish Guineas and they blamed the faster ground that day. Alpine Star has done well with a Coronation Stakes win and sound effort upped to 10F in the French Oaks, so it is hoped that connections confidence reflected by a performance akin to the latter of those two fillies.

    Ennistymon was thumped 9 lengths at Epsom and was probably only second because Frankly Darling was totally ill at ease on the track. Snow has a progressive profile but seems very weak out to 15/2 now and Passion is more popular.

    Nibbles on Laburnum and Even So with Ennistymon looking a bit easy to back at 3/1.

    Cayenne Pepper seems pretty solid and I will be hitting the whisky later on, either to celebrate or repair the heart.

    Not a strong renewal and Love would have been as short as a pygmy carrot in a mandolin had she lined up.
     
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  4. mandrake

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    Might do his other runner too for small ew course winner wouldnt be the first time i got wrong horse of 2 from grapevine
     
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  5. mandrake

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    Both placed 4th 5th (5pl PP)were clearly ready Fleming moon was poorly positioned but came home like a train ahh well .ew money at least
     
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  6. Grecian Mick

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    Hindsight is a good thing but why did the Hannons go all the way to Haydock when he could have gone Newbury or Bath. So far 2 races contested and 2 10/1 winners. Will probably win the last too.
     
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  7. Grendel

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    Once again, can't buy a winner. Ennistymon identified as a bad favourite and she finishes last. Almost every tipster I read today tipped her up as going to be hard to beat yet every filly in the race somehow managed it. At least it wasn't yet another O'Brien winner.

    Winner Even So has run almost four lengths better with Laburnum from their last meeting but she had looked fairly mired around the 100 level before today. It looked like the step up in trip would be the obvious explanation,

    The trainer and jockey comments regarding Cayenne Pepper having thrived and really come to hand since her last start looked utterly hollow and I couldn't say she has run a 1lb better today than last time. I thought she was coming to win it but I don't think she got the trip today.

    Snow gave it a go from the front and I wonder if she actually ran to set the pace for one of Aidan's other ones? It was clear a fair way out that she was going to be reeled in.

    To me it shaped like a Listed race and Ennistymon could hardly have paid a worse complement to Epsom Oaks winner Love. The dual Classic winner is cut to 3/1 in general for the Arc but a 103 rated filly beating Ennistymon by slightly further than Love did at Epsom hardly stands as a ringing endorsement for the leading 3YO filly of the season.

    66/1 shot wins the Railway Stakes and from Aidan O'Brien having a lock on the race from 1999, winning ten of the eleven runnings of the race at that time, he has only landed two of the next eleven runnings. Call the Police!
     
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  8. NassauBoard

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    Using that race to rate Love is ridiculous.
     
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  9. Bustino74

    Bustino74 Thouroughbred Breed Enthusiast

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    Not sure why you'd go past the first two as the best prospects. Both looked very good sorts in what I'm sure will turn out a very good race.

    There must be something different in the water at Freemason Lodge. They've had 3 2yo runners, two have won and the third, Maximal, was 2nd. Often Stoute didn't have a 2yo winner until mid-August.
     
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  10. QuarterMoonII

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    My not mentioning your selection at least clears me of any blame for it running behind my selection, which only managed fourth.

    I mentioned the tricast in the 12:45 but my June/July bout of seconditis continued with Live In The Moment converting his AW form to turf at my expense.

    Annoyingly, I chose the wrong day to back Frankie’s only ride with Harrovian as he collected on Sunday with Global Giant.

    If Colin Keane gives up the ride on Siskin at Goodwood because it would mean missing fourteen days in quarantine, he wants his head examining. Who passes up a chance at winning a big prize on a classic winner so they can ride also-rans against Ballydoyle at Naas or Dundalk for small change for a fortnight?
     
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  11. stick

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    would like to get evens that CK turns up at Goodwood
     
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  12. QuarterMoonII

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    I would take shorter than Evens – I just cannot see any bookie betting on it.
     
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