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  1. organic red

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    Its their second offence aswell, ****ing embarrassing for football this is.

    The Citeh hierarchy must be pissing themselves
     
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  2. saintanton

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    You have to wonder...
     
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  3. Solid Air 2

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    just to be pedantic it isn't instead as it is a reduction of the fine UEFA applied for failure to cooperate with the inquiry .
     
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  4. Tobes

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    Yep. If you're big enough and rich enough, you can stick two fingers up to the authorities and do what the hell you like.
    I'd held out a hope that it might be different, but I'm not really surprised.
     
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  6. astro

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    City have proven the route to bypass the regulations is to fail to cooperate, run down the clock on the charges, and pay a meaningless fine.

    FFP needs to be scrapped since it only limits honest clubs.
     
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  7. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Sounds like some of the evidence fell outside the 5 year window in which case it was obviously never going to be valid. Does make you question how they’ve only just found and decided to punish them on this stuff if it was over 5 years old?

    CAS said there was evidence just not enough of it <laugh>

    Ah well, we’re champions so **** it <diva>
     
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  8. johnsonsbaby

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    Not surprised at all and I've got no spare emotion to waste on even thinking about it. Other than what now is confirmed as a sham of a system (ffp), it means nothing to us.
     
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  9. astro

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    At least it means City will be playing Shakhtar Donetsk for the 5th season in a row rather than completely resting before PL games.
     
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  10. Tobes

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    Nah, the blame here lies squarely with UEFA for basing an entire case on stolen and out of context emails, failing to adhere to their own time bound rules, and not bothering to actually find some corroborating evidence that actually found City guilty.

    They then completely ignored City’s entire defence and found them guilty as charged based on their failure to fully cooperate with an investigation that City claimed was prejudged, poorly administered and lacking in actual substance.
     
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    As far as I can tell (and I cba to dig very deep) it seems that they haven't been exonerated, but that the infractions are mostly time-barred, as you say. So, UEFA have gone about this with the level of efficiency we've come to know and love down the years.
    I do wonder where we go from here - obviously FFP isn't going to work and UEFA are toothless when defied by a powerful club.
    I know there are those who believe that FFP was no more than an attempt to protect a cosy elitist club, but I'm not convinced of that.
    Whatever the motivation, it seems to be ill thought-out and impractical.
    Who'd have thought it?
     
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    I've addressed some of that (in principle) in my subsequent post.
    I don't disagree that UEFA have ****ed up yet again, but my own feelings are that City broke the rules, and the fact that the case against them was poorly presented doesn't make that ok.
     
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  13. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    Doubtless City have bunged the CAS more than they offered UEFA, but FFP is being broken everyday by most rich clubs anyway. Just disappointed Leicester are imploding and Mosschester Utd will get into the Top 4.
     
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    Good decision.

    The so called bigger clubs all buy success and City have put their noses out of joint.
     
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  15. wishiwasinliverpool

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    So if City weren't guilty of something why have they been fined still?

    Dan Roan, BBC Sports Editor: The credibility off FFP lies in tatters.

    Spot on.
     
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  16. RogerisontheHunt

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    Its supposed to be that they were found guilty, but CAS have over turned it due to the way the Uefa investigation took place... or something along those lines
     
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  17. astro

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    It's as if UEFA proved that Man City's owners were eating babies. But UEFA showed that their latest baby-eating order was placed 5 years and 1 day ago. And they couldn't prove they'd eaten babies since because all the baby receipts had been destroyed.

    So CAS says no ban because the proven baby eating wasn't within 5 years, but a fine for destroying evidence that probably showed you're still eating babies.

    Easiest way I can explain it.
     
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    What flavours?
     
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    What does Oil taste like?
     
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  20. Tobes

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    No. CAS have overturned the ban as it was imposed due to UEFA claiming City didn’t cooperate fully with the investigation and not because they had definitive proof of guilt, the fine imposed for that remains, but the ban was removed.
     
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