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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    SALFORD<laugh><laugh>.
     
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  2. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't even born in Salford. Wrong side of Pennines
     
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  3. astro

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    Has there ever been a weaker captain/vice pair in the Premier League than Maguire/De Gea?
     
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  4. astro

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    Grealish <doh>
     
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  5. astro

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    Trézéguet <doh>
     
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  6. Garlic Klopp

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    Utd get their usual penalty, looked a bit iffy to me
     
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  7. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Haha what a decision. United player treads on the ball spins and stamps on villa guys ankle.

    Penalty to united. How many var decisions have gone for united this season....
     
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  8. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Penalty a ****ing travesty. Scum ****s
     
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  9. johnsonsbaby

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    FIFA taking over the running of VAR next season. Expect more use of pitch side monitors?
     
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  10. astro

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  11. Solid Air 2

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    would probably help but imo just bin it & put in transfer bids for foreign refs .
     
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  12. johnsonsbaby

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    I think they've invested too much into the system to bin it. I agree with your idea about hiring foreign referees. I just read the BBC report saying that all 3 VAR penalty decisions were wrong . In reality without VAR they would probably have been wrong. VAR was meant to sort this out. I can't help thinking that the video ref is too scared to overrule the on field ref which just shouldn't be happening.
     
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  13. Solid Air 2

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    oh they won't bin it i just assumed it would be yet another step towards neutering football and would gradually be used more & more though as it turned out we just decided to shortcut the process and go straight for the absolutely **** version from the off .
    My biggest fear is rather than binning it they will just keep adding more things to be checked on it just to fix a problem that happens once a season a good example of that is the farce of the handball rule as applied to goals .
     
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  14. saintanton

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    Do you think our refs are incompetent or subject to bias - deliberate or subconscious?
     
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  15. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Can it be both and all?

    I get how an on field ref might miss something, be swayed by the players or crowd or see something that may or may not be there. The same can be said for linesmen, after all they are only capable of being human.
    VAR seems to be a bit of a cluster ****.

    Last night is probably the lowest VAR has been, three incorrect VAR decisions in the 3 separate games, all of which had an impact on the game. And its not like the VAR ref has to make a split second decision based on what they may or may not have been able to see.
    Perhaps its time for VAR refs to be a specialist thing.


    On a side not, I don't really remember us being involved in too many controversial VAR decsions this season, and in fact since the restart I don't believe we've had any lengthy VAR checks in our games. So much for Rival fans claiming our games rely on VAR
     
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  16. Solid Air 2

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    A large chunk of them are totally & utterly incompetent & seem to have never watched a game of football rather than reffed one .
    The difference is you see things like attacking player instigating the contact which refs seem to miss the majority of the time . Refs are also subject to bias , as we all are , so get a rep and it sticks so in different camps
    Bergkamp - lovely talented Dutch player who regularly stamped on oppo players on the ground with refs going " nah must be accidental "
    Suarez - typical South American & do anything to win including chucking himself to the ground at slightest contact but by after 18 months of that you ended up with incidents like against Norwich when a defender jumped on his back & Luis carried on running giving the fella a piggy back who then karate chopped him and so Suarez hit the deck at which point the ref waved "play on since he is a diving twat" .

    But by **** PL refs are almost as incompetent as <insert your own definition here as some of mine may cause offence >
     
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  17. saintanton

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    Certainly.
    I just wondered what Solid's opinion on this was, as he mentioned it earlier.
    Depending upon the problem, there are a number of solutions. If incompetence is the issue, then better training and honest review assessments could improve it. If it's bias, then more stringent criteria over ref selection would help.
    Foreign refs might help with the latter, but are they really any better at the job? I don't watch enough foreign football to have a valid opinion on that. Language issues come into play, though in the modern cosmopolitan game less so.
    I don't know - it's an interesting discussion.

    As for your point about some rival fans and VAR - sod 'em. We walked the league, and all they have left is some childish attempts to make it less of an achievement.
     
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  18. saintanton

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    Aw, go on.
     
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  19. Solid Air 2

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    i think i'll decline that kind offer .
     
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  20. Solid Air 2

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    TAA v Man City
    oh & for us
    VVD v Man Utd
     
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