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Council not selling KC Stadium.

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by John. Walkington., Sep 27, 2011.

  1. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Due to the financial fair play rules (which have been adopted by the Football League as well as the Premierleague) all spending this season onwards needs to be done in accordance with income. No expanded income as a result of a sports village = no extra spending on the team because we'll just be hit by sanctions when we fail to meet the 3 year rolling limits.
     
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  2. TigerDB

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    Unbelievable. Hull will continue to be a 'crap' town until we have vision and leadership. Brough closing today is another sign of the councils reverse gear attitude to development. Mark my words the energy project will be lost too. The city leaders have no balls and think they are doing the right think by protecting what they believe needs protecting. The irony is by refusing developments and always taking the safe option they are making our city and its folks more vulnerable. The world has changed. Hull fair won't keep this city alive. Since the fishing industry finished 30 years ago what is our identity .. What's our brand ? We don't have one, simply because we have no leadership. We have nothing but self promoting incompetents in an orderly queue to become mayor Rant over.....
     
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  3. dazzar86

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    I'm very annoyed about this decision.

    The current council are extremely backwards, yet people voted them BACK in!

    I was recently doing some media work during Freedom Festival and a senior member of a local tourism board said to me that Geraghty is the most uninspiring, boring, clueless, visionless person you could ever meet.
    I asked the simple question; so why on earth is he the portfolio holder for sport and culture?!!

    They gave the simple reply: '**** knows - this council is backwards'

    The YOUNGEST cabinet member of the current council is 42, ffs! Where is the young blood with fresh ideas?!!

    Coffee evenings and bingo are big events for the current lot. It needs to change.

    It's such a backwards set-up that Brady doesn't even have an email address!

    You can say all you want about Carl Minns, but at least he looked to the future - he had an open email address, a blog you could comment on, a twitter account and attended Hull Meet-ups!

    Surely as the leader of an area, you should be accessible to the people you're supposed to represent?
     
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  4. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The problem is next General Election Labour will be campaigning in Hull about how the Tories/Lib Dems have destroyed the economy and saying how people should look at things like Brough closing and no private enterprise replacing the jobs as an example of it, and too many people will be too thick to realise/remember things like this have been direct reasons for it. Combined wth the "my dad voted Labour so i will" mentality of others they'll still have all 3 MPs (subject to the reduction from 650 to 600 leaving Hull with 3).

    Good work by Labour though, nationally they've managed to make themselves look like they're helping the poor go to uni by saying they'd reduce tuition fees to £6k despite the fact it only benefits people who leave uni on a starting salary of over £30,000 (average starting salary is about 2/3 of that last I saw). Now they've managed to **** over hundreds (thousands if you add in the multiplier effect) of people who'd have benefitted from the jobs created and all the public who could have used the facilities created.

    It's almost like a party that's 'fighting the corner for the poor' has worked out that if the poor get rich they won't vote Labour any more so their support will drop and they won't get elected again, but they also realise the importance of trying to look like they're ****ing them over for their own good.
     
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  5. BernsteinTiger

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    This is why I find this particularly frustrating. As a rule - I'm pretty left wing economically... but even so - we don't live in a socialist world... and it's not going to start with the KC stadium. But I really get the feeling this not selling to the Allams is an ideological decision - and that's not right.

    If the Hull Council is not playing the same game as everyone else, it will be the people of Hull who suffer.
     
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  6. HHH

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    I wonder how the local MPs feel about this. Its Alan Johnsons constituency after all and he's always come across as a decent stand up guy that actually gives a **** about Hull. Also like what I've seen of Karl Turner.

    If you contact them they'd have to get involved. Might be able to 'lean' on the council twats.
     
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  7. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Diane Johnson MP (Labour) has given her opinion on today's events already. She feels the government should do everything it can to help the BAE workers (and I genuinely hadn't seen it when I said they'd start using events to try to score political points). Since her party is against investment by private indiividuals resulting in the creation of jobs if it means some pikeys lose a week's thieving I'm intrigued to know what it is she thinks the government should be doing to improve the situation.
     
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  8. DMD

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    1. We never have been a crap town. Repeating the myth hardly helps.

    2. Isn't that a different Council?
     
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  9. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Councillor Stephen Brady
    (Leader of the Council)
    (Portfolio Holder)
    (Leader of the Labour Group)
    Forenames: Stephen

    Ward Southcoates West
    Political Group Labour Group
    Entered Council 2000
    Contact Details Address: 39 Newcomen Street, Kingston upon Hull, HU9 3BA
    Telephone 01482 711448

    Email: [email protected]


    Support Information Retiring Year 2014
    Guildhall Room 55
    Constituency Hull East
    Area Committee Park
    Further Contact Details Guildhall Telephone 01482 615071
    Guildhall Fax 01482 613046
     
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  10. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    If we're going to complain, we need to be using fact based opinions.
     
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  11. Nick HCAFC

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    This is why I don't bother with politics and politicians, they are all a bunch of self-serving ****s
     
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  12. EastParkTiger

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    Well I have e-mailed both of them.

    I think we should all do the same.
     
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  13. dazzar86

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    He didn't have one last month when I search - all the details above came up, but the emil slot was left blank.

    Perhaps they put this one up after I complained?

    Still, my point is still valid - the current council are a set of dinosaurs.
    I'm all for protecting and preserving history, heritage and architecture - but there are times when people need to stop looking to the past and see the greater benefits for the future, and this is one of them.
    A sports village far outweighs the need for a fair that could easily be setup anywhere else in the city.
     
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  14. Granada Tiger

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    I for one hope we do move to Melton now. Then let the council divide its white elephant into allotments and rent them out for £5 a week. All of them are Clueless knob jockeys. We should organize a march, as earlier posted, but from the KC to the Guildhall and kick their ****ing heads in!
     
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  15. Roary The Tiger

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    And what was the councils view on Hull a couple of years ago......"Lets make HULL a TOP 10 CITY" ........ my arse!!!!

    The spend time and money erecting bollards on green areas to keep the gypos off the land , but still the gypos have rights to have an annual fair!
     
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  16. Hutch_Tiger

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    What is annoying is all the cloak and dagger, if its meant to be "the people of hulls" stadium, tell the people of Hull how much has been offered for it!!!!!

    typical politics, they have no respect for the general public, or our wants, its whats best for them.

    How many jobs would this project create??? how many people in hull are unemployed???

    Fair enough we dont want a scenario where the Allams could potentially put the Hull sports teams "home" at risk but surely measures can be taken to ensure they cannot ever legally borrow against the stadium. But why not reveal the details?

    It all smacks of a price haggle to me.
     
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  17. PLT

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    A referendum wouldn't help much, our city is full of stupid people with a small town mentality who would rather moan about not having these kind of facilities, than actually have them. Obviously everyone on these boards knows their arse from their elbow and can see how good this opportunity would be, but we are probably in ther minority across the city.

    If they really won't sell the stadium at any price then I'd completely support the decisions to move to Melton. The priority is to have these facilities - ideally on the current site in the current stadium which we're all very fond of - but if the council want to be tossers about it we should move and let them do what they want with the empty stadium. They want us to just sit back and take their crap decisons and we should do anything we can to oppose them, if that means moving to Melton then so be it.
     
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  18. Hutch_Tiger

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    Just a thought, but isnt there other land near and around the city that he could build on? plenty near kingswood.

    Or does he really want the stadium and land around it for free?

    I suppose if he's serious about Hull city and taking them forward as a club, then he'l build elsewhere , suppose time will tell
     
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  19. Hutch_Tiger

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    Interesting that more or less All of the FC fans support the decision not to sell.
     
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  20. PLT

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    Probably because it's anti-City.
     
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